The Space Between
By: Fractal Studios Podcast Network
Language: en
Categories: Science, Astronomy
The Space Between is a leading astronomy and science communication podcast hosted by Kolby Van Camp and Dawson Wagner. Each week, we dive into the wonders of the universe, exploring astronomy, astrophysics, cosmology, and more, through curiosity-driven conversations with scientists, thinkers, explorers, and communicators. Our mission is simple: make complex ideas about space accessible, engaging, and human. From Nobel Prize-winning physicists to rising voices in the astronomy community, The Space Between bridges cutting-edge science with everyday curiosity.
Episodes
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Oct 27, 2025A quick update for all our loyal fans here on the Space Between!
Duration: 00:03:29#34: Space and storytelling with Helena Cochrane
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https://the-space-between-podcast.printify.me/---In this episode of The Space Between, we sit down with astrophotographer, filmmaker, and YouTuber Helena Cochrane to explore how art, science, and storytelling collide under the night sky. From her first steps into astrophotography to her journey as a film student, Helena has built a unique voice in science communication, blending cinematic visuals, personal perspective, and educational outreach.
We talk about the challenges of imaging the heavens from the often-cloudy landscapes of Scotland, th...
Duration: 01:09:48#33: Data centers in space (part 1)
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In this episode of The Space Between, we explore a bold new frontier in digital infrastructure: data centers in space. As the world’s appetite for computing power skyrockets, fueled by AI, cloud services, and ever-expanding networks, traditional data centers are hitting limits on land, water, and energy. The solution some scientists and entrepreneurs propose? Lift the cloud above the clouds.
We examine the technical promise and pitfalls of orbital data ce...
Duration: 01:15:01#32: The Web-Halo Model with Dr. Samuel Brieden
Sep 15, 2025In this episode of The Space Between, we explore a breakthrough in cosmological modeling: the Web-Halo Model, developed by Dr. Sam Brieden and his team. For decades, cosmologists have relied on the halo model to describe how matter clumps together in the universe, but it struggled to capture the messy middle ground between isolated galaxies and vast cosmic structures.
The Web-Halo Model goes further, folding in the sheets and filaments of the cosmic web itself. Instead of treating haloes as standalone dark matter “bubbles,” WHM describes them as substructures within filaments and sheets — a hierarchy that mirrors how th...
Duration: 01:08:58#31: Is science wrong about the age of the universe?
Sep 09, 2025In this episode of The Space Between, we dive headfirst into one of the hottest debates in modern cosmology: the true age of the universe and what new data from the James Webb Space Telescope (JWST) means for our understanding of cosmic expansion. Headlines are screaming “crisis” and claiming the universe is expanding at two different speeds—so what’s fact, what’s speculation, and what’s just sensational storytelling?
We explore the “Hubble Tension,” the discrepancy between early-universe and late-universe measurements of cosmic expansion, and why JWST’s confirmation of Hubble’s data is such a big deal. At the sam...
Duration: 01:17:39#30: Bernie Michaels and the chaos behind black holes
Sep 01, 2025In this episode of The Space Between, Kolby, Dawson, and special guest Bernie Michaels dive into the hidden patterns of chaos and the strange gravitational dance of black holes. Bernie, a self-proclaimed chaos math savant, unpacks how tiny changes can lead to cosmic-scale consequences — from galaxies colliding to the unpredictable orbits that shape the universe.
We explore whether black holes act like strange attractors, how fractals might be written into the very fabric of spacetime, and whether the universe’s most terrifying objects might also be the birthplace for all life as we know it. Along the way...
Duration: 01:15:19#29: Surviving the lunar night with the thermoelectric solution
Aug 25, 2025Far from Earth, the Moon presents explorers with an unforgiving puzzle: two weeks of searing daylight followed by two weeks of frozen night. For any future habitat, this isn’t just an inconvenience—it’s a survival crisis. How do you keep the lights on, the air flowing, and the water unfrozen when the Sun disappears for 354 hours at a time?
In this episode of The Space Between, Kolby and Dawson explore a surprising solution: thermoelectric power. By harnessing the Moon’s brutal extremes—searing heat by day and deep cold by night—engineers are discovering ways to turn temp...
Duration: 00:59:03#28: What's lurking beyond the edge of the solar system?
Aug 19, 2025Far beyond the orbit of Pluto lies a silent frontier—the frozen edge of the solar system, where light fades, and time seems to stretch. In this episode of The Space Between, Kolby and Dawson explore the discovery of 2023 KQ14, an ancient, distant object nicknamed Ammonite. It's one of only a handful of known sednoids, mysterious celestial bodies that may be untouched relics from the solar system's formation 4.5 billion years ago.
What makes Ammonite special? Its orbit is so stable, so distant, and so strange that it may challenge the very way we model the outer solar sy...
Duration: 00:57:52#27: What's really happening with 3I/ATLAS?
Aug 15, 2025In this episode of The Space Between, Kolby and Dawson dive headlong into the extraordinary cosmic guests gracing our solar system in 2025—starting with 3I/ATLAS, the third confirmed interstellar object ever observed. Is it a comet from a forgotten star system older than our own… or, as some have (controversially) speculated, an alien probe with a cloaked mission? We break down the hard science, the wild theories, and everything in between as this icy wanderer makes its high-speed fly-by of the Sun.
Then, we turn our gaze outward—way outward—to Ammonite (2023 KQ14), a newly discovered sednoid...
Duration: 01:07:36#26: The Orion Nebula, Pleiades, and Hyades are... related?
Jul 21, 2025In this episode of The Space Between, Kolby and Dawson explore the cosmic family tree hiding in plain sight: the Orion Nebula, the Pleiades, and the Hyades. New research suggests these iconic star clusters aren’t just neighbors in the night sky—they’re snapshots of the same stellar system at different stages of life. From baby stars to fading elders, we dive into how clusters form, drift, and evolve, and what that says about the nature of change in the universe. Along the way, we tackle a mind-bending listener question: can black holes give birth to entire universes? And if...
Duration: 00:57:29#25: Dr. Patricia Henning - Very Large Array Series
Aug 21, 2024The VLA and NRAO approved our content for release! Enjoy the second of a small series of interviews we conducted with scientific personnel this last March at the VLA and the NRAO.
Kolby and Dawson sit down with the Associate Director of the NRAO, Dr. Patricia Henning, to discuss the workings of the National Radio Astronomy Observatory and the Very Large Array.
Duration: 00:23:29#24: Summer Ash at the VLA - Very Large Array Series
Aug 16, 2024The VLA and NRAO approved our content for release! Enjoy the first of a small series of interviews we conducted with scientific personnel this last March at the VLA and the NRAO.
Kolby, Dawson, and Ben sit down on-site with NRAO STEAM Education Manager and Visitor Experience and Guided Tour Manager for the VLA, Summer Ash, to discuss the workings of the telescope, her favorite projects she's been a part of, and the way the VLA operates.
Duration: 00:46:12#23: Lost in space, sort of
Aug 10, 2024Kolby and Dawson break down a recent development where two astronauts are potentially being left on the International Space Station for a significant period of time due to a technical malfunction, plus a really cool public initiative that the European Space Agency has put together to engage the public in astronomy.
Duration: 00:56:19#22: Fungi, an unlikely space ally
Aug 01, 2024Kolby and Dawson discuss fungi in space, its durability, NASA's plans for how it can be used, and whether a hypothesis that it provides access to a deeper level of understanding to the universe.
Duration: 01:11:28#21: Caves on the moon and rockets to Mars
Jul 25, 2024Kolby and Dawson fire up season 3 with some space news about caves on the moon, the technology needed to explore further into our solar system, and Space X's newest missile launch.
Duration: 00:53:40UPDATE: Getting back to the basics
Jul 16, 2024Hey all. We so appreciate your support over these strange last nine months. The times have changed, the expectations in our lives have changed, and we just want to get back to the basics.
You have been awesome for a long time - and we want to keep connecting with you. No frills, no monetization, just two dudes keeping it real and talking in the Space Between.
Much love, we will see you soon.
- Kolby and Dawson
Duration: 00:08:21#20: Recap of our Very Large Array trip
Mar 22, 2024Kolby, Dawson, and Ben recap their trip to the Very Large Array.
Duration: 00:39:22#19: To UAP or not to UAP, that is the question
Mar 11, 2024Kolby and Dawson discuss the latest in the American governmental findings regarding UAPs and the conflicting messaging it sends.
Duration: 00:58:39Patreon Pod Preview: Odysseus... fell over
Feb 28, 2024Kolby and Dawson react to the Odysseus lander falling over on the moon.
Duration: 00:09:52#18: To the moon and beyond
Feb 26, 2024Kolby and Dawson break down the recent landing of Odysseus on the moon, the expansion of inter-solar technology, and what that means for the future of humanity.
Duration: 01:04:31#17: Planets, exoplanets, and more
Feb 19, 2024Kolby and Jimmy enjoy a little bit of a relax day with Dawson out of the country and discuss planets, exoplanets, movies, and more.
Duration: 01:05:38#16: The power of radio telescopes
Feb 14, 2024Kolby and Dawson discuss radio telescopes, their upcoming trip to the Very Large Array and the wonders of the Event Horizon Telescope.
Duration: 01:03:54#15: Josh Dury, dark sky activism, and astrophotography
Feb 02, 2024Kolby and Dawson sit down with one of the UK's most prominent astrophotographers, Josh Dury - AKA Starman - to discuss his recent success, frequent collaborations with the BBC, dark sky activism, and what it takes to make it as a professional photographer of the night sky.
Duration: 01:03:47#14: Trevor Jones and AstroBackyard
Dec 15, 2023Kolby and Dawson sit down with one of the most prominent YouTube astrophotographers in the world, Trevor Jones from AstroBackyard, to discuss astrophotography, being a YouTuber, astronomy, and making a living out of your passions.
Duration: 00:59:29#13: John Mather and the James Webb Space Telescope
Dec 14, 2023Kolby and Dawson sit down with 2006 Nobel Laureate in Physics and the senior astrophysicist for the James Webb Space Telescope through NASA, Dr. John Mather, to discuss JWST, putting telescopes in orbit around the solar system, the Fermi Paradox, and so much more, here on The Space Between.
Duration: 00:53:17An update for you - we're coming back!
Dec 13, 2023Kolby updates the fanbase on why there has been a hiatus of episodes in the last few weeks and provides updates for the future. We aren't going anywhere, we promise!
Duration: 00:02:02#12: AI and the search for extraterrestrial intelligence
Nov 03, 2023Kolby and Dawson break down recent developments with AI and machine learning, how that is and could impact the space industry, and whether we as a civilization have been looking for extraterrestrial intelligence in the wrong place all along.
Duration: 01:11:09#11: Bettymaya Foott, astrophotography, and the DarkSky Initiative
Oct 21, 2023Kolby and Dawson sit down with prominent astrophotographer and light pollution reduction advocate, Bettymaya Foott. Bettymaya's photography has been featured in the Los Angeles Times and National Geographic. She is also a key representative for the DarkSky Initiative organization which advocates for the reduction of light pollution around the world.
Duration: 00:40:21#10: Telescopes and time travel
Oct 06, 2023Kolby and Dawson break down the power of telescopes like the James Webb Space Telescope (JWST) and the Giant Magellan Telescope and their ability to "travel back in time" using simple physics to see the dim and distant past at the beginning of the universe.
Duration: 00:56:46#9: Lado Samushia and dark matter
Sep 29, 2023Kolby and Dawson sit down with associate professor of physics at Kansas State University, Dr. Lado Samushia, to discuss his expertise in dark matter and dark energy and the research he is conducting in the field of cosmology.
Duration: 01:09:51#8: NASA, UAPs, and mummies
Sep 15, 2023Kolby and Dawson break down the latest space news as NASA drops their much-anticipated findings on UAPs (unidentified anomalous phenomena), and two alleged "alien mummies" were displayed to the Mexican government.
Duration: 00:58:00#7: Is life possible on Mars?
Jul 12, 2023Kolby and Dawson break down the latest on news from Mars relating to the building blocks of life, India's mission to the moon, and let's be honest: did Pluto really deserve the demotion?
Duration: 01:08:11#6: Listening to the universe through sonifcation
Jul 09, 2023Kolby and Dawson break down how scientists are experiencing the universe in a new way through a process called sonification, as well as discussing the new reflection nebula that Nico Carver (see episode #2!) discovered this week.
Duration: 00:46:40#5: Is our universe inside a black hole?
Jun 29, 2023Kolby and Dawson break down a fascinating theory from Nobel Prize winning physicist Sir Roger Penrose regarding the idea that our universe is constantly being reborn and could potentially be inside of a black hole.
Duration: 00:58:37#4: Has the space race already been won?
Jun 25, 2023Kolby and Dawson break down the history of the Space Race, what does it mean today, should space exploration be privatized, and the implications of becoming a Type 1 Civilization.
Duration: 00:49:46#3: Quasars, blazars, and pulsars, oh my!
Jun 24, 2023In today's episode, Kolby and Dawson break down the insane interstellar objects that are quasars, blazars, and pulsars. That, plus science news about a potential nearby supernova and the reality that not all infinities are the same size as other infinities should get your science itch scratched this Saturday.
Duration: 00:50:05#2: Nico Carver and astrophotography
Mar 28, 2023Kolby sits down with prominent YouTuber and astrophotographer, Nico Carver, of the channel Nebula Photos to discuss astrophotography, the wonders of exploring the night sky, and successful YouTubing on a niche topic.
Duration: 00:59:23#1: David Kipping and the Cool Worlds Lab
Feb 23, 2023Kolby sits down with Columbia University professor Dr. David Kipping to discuss some of David's fascinating ideas and papers on exomoons, turning the earth into a telescope, and whether or not life exists beyond us, somewhere in the space between.
Duration: 00:47:10The Space Between (Trailer)
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Duration: 00:00:59