Free Outside

Technology has crept into every corner of our sport—from GPS watches to real-time tracking to social media validation. In this episode of the Free Outside Podcast, I sit down with Luke McCrae, the creator of Corsa, a site that tracked my Appalachian Trail FKT attempt (with a one-day safety delay).

We dive into the rise of tech in FKTs and outdoor adventures—where it helps, where it hurts, and how far is too far. Does tracking make our experiences richer or just more public? Are we still chasing the same spirit of adventure when...

One month after setting the Appalachian Trail self-supported FKT, I’m in a strange place—floating between accomplishment and uncertainty. This episode isn’t about miles or records; it’s about what happens after.

I talk openly about trying to find purpose once the goal is over—navigating sponsorships, self-worth, and the emotional fallout of chasing something so all-consuming. The trail stripped everything away, forcing me to feel emotions raw and real—anger, joy, sadness, pride—and now I’m learning how to carry those lessons into real life.

It’s honest, mes...

It’s that magical time of year again — pumpkin spice, golden tickets, and glitter on the desert trails. In this episode, Me and Allison Mercer break down the 2025 Javelina 100, the first Western States qualifier of the season, featuring names like Tara Dower, David Roche, Devon Yanko, Rajpaul Pannu, and Lauren Puretz.

We also dive into Courtney Dauwalter’s decision to run another marathon — this time at CIM — and debate whether she’s training for Cocodona redemption or just chasing the road racing rush. Expect plenty of hot takes, costume ideas, and “expert” predictions on who will snag th...

I’m joined by Katie “Wildy” Brown—former Arizona Trail self-supported record holder and fresh off the Millwood 100, a 102-mile Wasatch linkup with ~37,000 feet of vert designed by Jared Campbell. We break down what Millwood actually is (route, not race), why she started at night, when the wheels got wobbly on night two, and how crew and pacers changed the game. Katie talks RUFA, Salt Lake’s inversion (and why you literally run through it), and lessons from the mostly self-supported Plains 100—moon dust, SAR checkpoints, and an asthma scare at mile 100. We get into toughness vs. speed, route finding with...

After 45 days of hiking, hobbling, and setting a new Appalachian Trail self-supported record, I’m back—barely running, barely sleeping, and somehow still full of opinions. In this episode of the Free Outside Show, I break down the Chicago Marathon broadcast (and the glorious chaos of local news), talk about rebuilding a body that forgot what running is, and share the weird post-FKT side effects—from Christmas toes to an over-eager bladder.

I cover what it means to start over, why my calves hate me, and how patience might just be the secret to my nex...

It’s a full plate this week on The Free Outside Show. I’m diving into Terminus Season—that bittersweet time when thru-hikers take the photo, post it, and wonder what’s next. Then we get into Trail TMZ, where a defamation lawsuit is brewing, and I try not to get sued for talking about it.

From there, we climb the philosophical peaks of Richard Feynman, Christopher McCandless, and Killian Jornet, somehow connecting it all back to neuromas, the UTMB money machine, and why you should just do the thing—even if nobody understands it.

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Fresh off my self-supported AT record, I sit down with 2013 AT self-supported FKT holder Matt Kirk to talk about the weird gravity of post-trail depression, the long arc of the record from Ward Leonard to Stringbean to Tara, and where the line is with tech, tracking, and “help” on a self-supported effort. We dig into calories gone wrong (why 3,500/day failed), Shenandoah as a quiet crux, trail magic ethics, and why simplicity might be the best rule we have left. Matt shares the origin story of SCAR, naming it, and—plot twist—how he met his wife on the AT. I sh...

Ten days off the Appalachian Trail and I’m deep in the post-trail fog—so I’m doing what any reasonable human would: grading my own record attempt. In this episode I hand out a full report card on the AT self-supported FKT—physical execution, sleep, injuries, nutrition (hello 1,000-cal drink mix), logistics (RIP Shenandoah resupply), mental game, weather, terrain, and storytelling—then tally the GPA. I riff on why drone shots aren’t a story, share some Mammoth 200 takes, and explain how two left shoes, a missing electronics bag, and shoe-toe peekaboo somehow still add up to a record. We h...

Eight days after setting the Appalachian Trail self-supported FKT, I sit down with my girlfriend, Allison Powell, for the most comprehensive post-mortem yet. We unpack the messy middle: inReach texts that read like hieroglyphics, a resupply box that vanished in Shenandoah, two left shoes (and a toe popping through the right one), a broken pole in New York, rain that no radar would admit, and the late-race sit-and-kick that finally stuck. We talk about the A-T(eam) group thread with John (yes, the Mexico engagement guy), what it’s like supporting a record you’re not allowed to “help” on, the...

After 2,200 miles, 45 days, and more duct-taped shoes than I care to admit, I finally set the self-supported Appalachian Trail FKT. In this episode, Allison Mercer and I dive into the full story—why I went back to the AT, how it nearly broke me (again), and what it takes to push through when your body is screaming “stop” but you’ve still got 80 miles to cover.

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We talk about the shoe disaster (two left shoes, then two right shoes), sleeples...

While I’m out chasing a self-supported FKT on the Appalachian Trail, we’re throwing it back to one of the weirdest solo episodes yet.

This one’s all about hallucinations—those sleep-deprived visions that show up when the miles get long and the sleep gets short. I break down my top five all-time hallucinations from FKTs and multi-day races like Nolan’s 14, Cocodona, the Arizona Trail, and the Colorado Trail.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Context of the Podcast

02:11 Hallucinations from Sleep Deprivation

07:22...

In this soul-spilling solo episode, I get honest from a borrowed cabin (and even more borrowed fishing hat) about why I gave up my home, comforts, and stability to chase a 40+ day goal on the Appalachian Trail. This isn’t just about trying to set an FKT—this is about redefining why we go after anything in life. I break down what it means to pursue something uncertain, unplug from the chaos, and find the rawest form of purpose in a world drowning in notifications, optics, and comparison traps.

From unexpected homelessness to deep refl...

In this episode of the Free Outside Podcast, I replay one of my all-time favorite convos — a sit-down with Tara Dower, who absolutely crushed the supported Appalachian Trail FKT and somehow lived to tell the tale (barely).

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We talk about everything from post-trail depression to how it feels when your crew spoon-feeds you every meal for 40 days straight. Tara breaks down the power of delegation, what it’s like to lose all decision-making autonomy, and how a dog bite duri...

What does it take to go after one of the hardest endurance records in the world?

In this episode of The Free Outside Show, I'm breaking down my entire strategy for a self-supported Fastest Known Time (FKT) attempt on the Appalachian Trail—southbound. I’m going after Joe “Stringbean” McConaughy’s record of 45 days and change, but flipping the direction: Maine to Georgia. I explain why I’m starting with the hardest 400 miles, how I’m planning for early setbacks, and why “survive and advance” is my north star.

We get into:

Today on the Free Outside Podcast, I’m joined by world record-holding ultra legend and Wisconsin's third-best export (according to me), Zach Bitter. We dive into everything from the logistics of setting a 100-mile world record to the absurdity of explaining our jobs to boomers ("I'm an influencer" = conversation over). Zach explains the appeal of fixed-time races, what he'd do differently in his record run (spoiler: shoes, fuel, and maybe a time machine), and whether doping is as prevalent in ultrarunning as EPO-fueled Reddit threads make it seem.

We also go deep on the ev...

In this gear-packed episode of The Free Outside Show, I break down everything I’m bringing to attempt the self-supported Appalachian Trail FKT. From a tarp that bugs will laugh at to a bandana that’s doing its best to tame my untamable hair, I go through every single piece of gear—24 items total—and why each one made the cut. I also test the limits of how many sponsor plugs I can fit into a single monologue (spoiler: a lot). Whether you're into ultralight setups, curious about thru-hiking gear, or just want to hear someone spiral into gear-induced madness...

This episode is what happens when Jeff Garmire hands the mic (sort of) to actor and trail runner Allison Powell. What begins as an Appalachian Trail FKT strategy interview quickly spirals into alien voice impressions, reality TV pitches, peanut M&M disasters, and campaign platforms centered around botulism prevention.

Amid the theater kid chaos and sitcom-level side tangents, Jeff actually does manage to break down his training, gear prep, food strategy (shoutout to fig bars and 1,000-calorie drink sludge), and what he’s mailing to himself across 14 states. There’s also a Billy-on-the-Street-style AT triv...

This one was a long time coming. I finally got to sit down with Joey Campanelli — aka Joey Camps — who’s been quietly putting together one of the wildest, most hardcore FKT resumes in existence. From a 2014 Appalachian Trail junk show with a ski pack and trench foot, to the 2017 self-supported AT finish that just happened to be three days behind Stringbean’s historic run… Joey’s stories are brutal, honest, and somehow hilarious.

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We dig into: Duration: 00:35:58

What do a McDonald’s, a rusted van, and an Appalachian Trail record have in common? Warren Doyle. On this episode of the Free Outside Podcast I am joined by the legend Warren Doyle — educator, endurance icon, and Appalachian Trail philosopher — for an unfiltered, no-bobblehead conversation about FKTs, culture clashes, and the soul of long-distance hiking.

Warren recounts his 1973 AT speed record (before we even called them FKTs), discusses the evolution of trail culture, and shares stories of creeks, canteens, creek showers, and a boot gone rogue. We explore the role of endurance vs. speed...

On this episode of The Free Outside Podcast, I’m joined by White Mountains legend and community builder Andrew Drummond to dive deep into the Direttissima—an FKT linking all 48 of New Hampshire’s 4,000-foot peaks in one unsupported push. Think Nolan’s 14 but with more rocks, more bushwhacks, and significantly more emotional damage.

We cover Andrew’s recent sub-5-day effort, the strategic "feathering" of effort in multi-day sufferfests, and why hiking in the Whites feels like the trail is actively trying to kill you. We also talk about the evolution of FKTs, the import...

I finally got Allison Powell—producer, ultrarunner, and now bonafide backpacker—on the podcast to talk about her first solo thru-hike: the Wonderland Trail. Spoiler alert: she tried to bring hummus, carrots, and a full picnic on a 90+ mile, three-day solo trip around Mount Rainier. But somehow, despite a heavy pack, trail math struggles, and losing her travel mug to the forest gods, she pulled it off.

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What do wildfires, the Arizona desert, and the Oregon Coast have in common? They’ve all tried—and failed—to stop Katie Gunvalson, aka Raven. In this episode, I catch up with Jeffrey Award winner and self-supported FKT crusher Katie after her overall record on the Oregon Coast Trail, where she took the long way and still came out fastest.

This is the full-circle redemption arc. Katie first came on the podcast after her PCT FKT was stopped by a wildfire on day one. Since then? She’s failed a few more times (we all have...

When you hear this, I will have started the Appalachian Trail Self Supported FKT attempt. Track it here: https://corsa.run/live/freeoutside/

Also, consider donating to the Trevor Project as I try to raise money and make a difference during this record attempt: https://give.thetrevorproject.org/JeffAT

In this episode, I sit down (virtually) with the Dictator of FKTs, Allison Mercer, for a last-minute chat about how the heck I got here: from failed FedEx deliveries and lost shoes, to spending $500 shipping food across the eastern seaboard...

I’m joined by the legend himself—John Kelly—just about a month after his Appalachian Trail FKT attempt. We go deep. Like "0.1 miles felt like a day" kind of deep.

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John opens up about the logistics, the emotional toll, the storm-soaked first week, and the injury that brought a nearly successful record run to a halt with just 300 miles to go. We get into the mental shifts that come with long effort...

What the Heck Is an FKT? (And Why I'm Living in the Woods for 45 Days)

Live from a very cabin-y cabin in Montana, I bring you an episode for everyone wondering, what even is an Appalachian Trail FKT? I’m joined by the queen of Fastest Known Times herself, Allison Mercer, to break it all down. We cover the wild world of FKTs—from how they started, to the different styles (unsupported, self-supported, supported), what’s allowed, what’s not, and how you can go set your own.

Whether you’re a longtime e...

Circle of Hell Run (COHR), Chef Boyardee, and Sweat Salt Wisdom with Bryce Brooks

I’m joined by the undisputed king of dry-heat suffering, Bryce Brooks. He’s now a three-time champion of the infamous Circle of Hell Run—a 3-hour looped sufferfest in Phoenix held during the hottest part of the hottest day of the year. We dig into exactly how to win a heat race with 200 pounds of ice, salt pills by the fistful, and ice bandana swaps that would make an F1 pit crew jealous.

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For this Appalachian Trail FKT, I realized I have to become one with the thru-hiker. That means mud baths, tarp life, eating with my hands, and yes—training while also working a remote job from the literal woods. This episode is a stitched-together recap of my second big training camp, where I logged over 300 miles and 80,000 feet of vert in the hardest terrain the AT has to offer.

I kick things off with a midnight arrival in Bangor and a 2.7-mile walk to my hotel (because, of course, there were no Ubers). From there, it...

In this solo episode of the Free Outside Show, I dive into something I’ve been thinking about (and living through) for a while—the difference between pro runners and influencers in the trail running world. Who actually drives the sport forward? Who sells the shoes? And where do we go from here?

I break down how pros validate performance and products, while influencers excel at storytelling and getting people off the couch. I explore why brands struggle to invest in athlete content and what we need to do better—like athlete-influencer integration, content allowa...

I’m recording this one live from a hotel room in New Hampshire that sounds like a prison cell and smells like ambition. I’m in the middle of my second training camp for the Appalachian Trail FKT, and things are getting real—mud to the thighs, toe infections, and 11,000-foot gain days kind of real.

In this episode, I dive into what a training camp actually looks like when you’re prepping for 40+ days on the trail. I talk through the three pillars I focus on: specificity, recovery, and decision-making. I’ve been testing ev...

In this episode of The Free Outside Show, I’m diving into something that might sound silly at first—being a fan. Whether it’s the NFL, NBA playoffs, Western States, or obsessively refreshing the live tracker at Cocodona, I argue that being a fan matters. It builds community, creates connection, and honestly, just makes life more fun. So this is a passionate, slightly ranty defense of why you should let yourself care—about your favorite athletes, races, and even trail drama.

Along the way, I talk Montana Meltdown (our September race), show off my Janji...

I’m alive in Bangor, Maine — a sentence that somehow feels like the opening line of a novel. In this episode of the Free Outside Show, I walk you through my chaotic arrival to the start of my Appalachian Trail FKT training camp, including a 1 a.m. walk from the airport (no Ubers in Bangor, apparently) and my deep dive into specificity. I’m testing everything: my exact 7,000-calorie-per-day nutrition, gear kit, FKT pacing strategy, and resupply logistics — all in the hardest section of the trail.

I also talk about working on the road, training...

Today on The Free Outside Podcast, I’m joined by the legendary Cam Hanes—bowhunter, ultrarunner, lifter of heavy things, and yes, friend of Joe Rogan. We dive into everything from Courtney Dauwalter’s mountain mindset to how Disneyland became a tactical hunting joke with a laser pointer (thanks, Joe).

Cam shares his thoughts on the growing influencer side of trail running, Western States carnage, public lands politics, and what he really thinks about ultrarunning's obsession with science and splits. We talk about grit, quitting, suffering, and why lifting weights is somehow less cool than u...

This week on the Free Outside Podcast, I'm joined by repeat guest and newly crowned Lavaredo 120K podium finisher Alyssa Clark. We talk all things Lavaredo—what makes this epic European race special (aside from the 11 PM start and absurd elevation gain), how she ran within striking distance of Courtney Dauwalter, and how pink hair and frogs helped her stay grounded mid-race.

But that’s just the start.

Alyssa opens up about the team she’s built around her—nutritionist, mental coach, agent, husband, and even the cats. We go deep...

Western States 100 needed an awards show—so we made one. I’m joined by Allison Mercer for the first-ever Westees, a highly serious, extremely prestigious, and entirely made-up award show for the 2025 Western States 100.

We hand out awards like:

BDE: Big Dad Energy

Michigan "Bluff" Award (for premature blowups

Scuba Steve Award

I’m Not Back, I’m Better Award

The Cougar of the Field

The Zach Miller Lookalike Award

...and of course,

Jeff of the Day

We also break do...

Western States may be the most iconic race in ultrarunning—but it also comes with carnage, heartbreak, and a pile of DNS and DNF drama. In this episode, I’m joined by the always-entertaining Allison Mercer (of FastestKnownTime.com) to break down the storylines, the runners who didn’t make it to the start line, and wild ideas to spice up the sport (spoiler: mile-seeding starts for elites?).

We also dive into the FKT world—John Kelly’s latest madness, what’s changing in the scene, and why FKTs still matter. Plus, I give a quick life...

I just ran the Bighorn 100—no pacers, no headphones, and absolutely no planning. In this episode, I share the full breakdown of how I tackled Wyoming’s classic 100-miler while juggling life stress, sleep deprivation, and a recent pacing stint on the Pacific Crest Trail. From garbage bag drop bags to a ramen-fueled revival at mile 48, this race was anything but conventional.

I talk about the wildflowers, the relentless climbs, the raw and rugged vibe of the race, and why I chose to run it in the middle of prepping for my Appalachian Trail FKT...

In this brutally honest solo episode, I unpack what’s been the most stressful month of my life—losing my apartment, unresolved medical issues, financial pressure, and trying to prep for a 100-miler I haven’t even packed for. Oh yeah, and I’m attempting a self-supported Appalachian Trail FKT in less than a month. No big deal.

But it’s not all chaos. I reflect on the finite nature of miles, what "best" really means, and why shared suffering for the wrong reasons is never worth it. I read from Mike Versteeg’s powerful Colorado Trail FKT post and...

On this episode of the Free Outside Podcast, I’m joined by coach, ultra runner, and creator Justin Andreas—aka Running in Stash. We talk about his wild transformation from jacked military bodybuilder to golden hour 100-miler finisher and trail coach. We dive deep into his life in Alaska, where training includes moose dodging, sub-zero treadmill marathons, and running in negative 49 degrees… in a singlet.

We cover everything from his Bighorn 100 tips (mud. lots of mud.) to racing in sandals, brushing teeth mid-ultra, taper meltdowns, and why the golden hour might be the most inspir...

In this solo episode of the Free Outside Podcast, I dive into a topic that every endurance athlete eventually wrestles with: What’s your why?

I unpack what it really means to chase big goals in the era of social media, external validation, and highlight reels. From the pressure of performance posts to the value of community and joy in the moment, this is an unfiltered look at what keeps us coming back to these wild endurance events—even when nobody's watching.

Topics include:

-Why...

Kate Pallardy joins the Free Outside Podcast to talk about longevity in ultrarunning, balancing motherhood with elite racing, and how her mindset has evolved over the years. From 100-mile podiums to navigating the chaos of parenting and training, Kate shares how she’s learned to stay present, resilient, and grounded—even when everything feels out of control.

We dive into:

-The reality of training with toddlers and unpredictability

-How mindset work and self-awareness changed her racing

-What she learned from big DNFs—and big wins

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In this solo episode of the Free Outside Podcast, I share my full game plan for 2025—including how I’m building from Cocodona 250 to the Appalachian Trail self-supported FKT attempt this August. I break down how I’m training, recovering, testing gear, and optimizing logistics for what could be a once-in-a-lifetime record shot.

We cover:

-How Cocodona fits into my 2025 plan

-Why I’m racing Bighorn 100 as an FKT-style training run

-Nutrition experiments and how I’m training my gut for endurance

-Gear strategy...

In this episode of the Free Outside Podcast, I’m joined by Allison Powell, who turned her Cocodona 250 into a full-blown cinematic universe—with costumes, movie soundtracks, and a race plan inspired by Galaxy Quest, Dune, Game of Thrones, Mad Max, Star Wars, and Doctor Who. But when hail, hypothermia, and mud rivers entered the plot, the script changed fast.

We dive into Allison’s brilliant and brutal journey through sleep-deprivation, pacer therapy sessions, medical alerts, and the art of holding hands on trail. This is one of the most insightful, entertaining, and emotionally raw Co...

Welcome to Trail TMZ, the spicy trail running news breakdown you didn’t know you needed. I’m Jeff Garmire, and this week I dive into the carnage at Western States—Jim Walmsley and Hayden Hawks are out, and so is the “Unbreakable 2” film project (yes, really). I give my unfiltered take on why that matters, how storytelling in our sport is being fumbled, and why it’s time for trail films to embrace the chaos instead of bailing when stars drop.

Then, things heat up with Camille Herron’s cryptic Instagram post—where she dubs herself...

I sit down with Coree Woltering—pro athlete for Merrell, Janji, and Smartwool—for a raw and hilarious conversation about his redemption at the Cocodona 250. From being the very first person to drop out of the inaugural race to finishing it five years later, Coree shares the highs, lows, and muddy middle miles of his journey.

We talk about impromptu race entries (Venmoed Southern States 200), wild hallucinations, ankle weirdness, and what happens when your crew gets stranded with a flat tire halfway through a 250-mile race. Coree also opens up about finding joy in ultr...

Today’s episode starts off with something I might just turn into a regular segment: Trail TMZ. We dig into the controversy surrounding William Goodge's run across Australia and the data that has people wondering—from heart rate anomalies to 55 mph GPS spikes. Then we take a brief detour into the Camille Herron Wikipedia saga and my lingering sadness that she never came on the show.

But the real highlight is a deep conversation with Aaron Fleisher, a fellow five-time Cocodona 250 finisher. We talk about his journey from stage racing and thru-hiking into the worl...

I sit down with Kevin Russ—board game designer, iPhone photography legend, thru hiker, and freshly minted Cocodona 250 finisher. We dive into Kevin’s wild journey from shooting landscapes with just his phone to creating successful board games, and now, tackling 200+ mile races. He opens up about the physical and mental toll of Cocodona, the moments that tested him most, and the role his crew played in getting him to the finish. We also explore how creativity overlaps with endurance and what’s next for Kevin in both ultra running and game design.

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Today we have one of the most inspiring runners I know—Jennie Chisholm. She’s a mom of four boys, a Triple Crowner, and a two-time Cocodona 250 finisher. But she didn’t find ultrarunning the usual way. She stumbled into it—literally—on a whim while thru-hiking the Arizona Trail.

She tells the incredible story of how her family went from watching Cocodona as curious hikers to toeing the start line with hand-me-down running vests and brand-new shoes. We talk about how her sons became ultrarunners, what it’s like racing 250 miles while constantly worrying abo...

This week, I scrapped the pre-recorded episode I had ready to go and decided to hit record and talk live—from the post-Cocodona haze. After five finishes at Cocodona 250, I figured it was time to finally answer the question: Should you sign up for Cocodona? I break down what it really takes to toe that start line, what happens in the mid-pack where most of us live for days on end, and why finishing should always mean more than your pace chart or Instagram recap.

This year, things went sideways. COVID showed up early (fo...

The crazy story of my fifth finish at Cocodona 250. This year was full of surprises — I ran with a sickness, hallucinated witches and aliens, battled rain, hail, and mud, and somehow kept going with the help of an incredible crew.

I break down the highs and lows, from brain fog and rolled ankles to a bobcat sighting, and even the odd gear fix that saved the day (hint: Vagisil).

If you’re into ultrarunning, trail running, or just want to hear about pushing through 250 miles of chaos, this episode is f...

In this solo episode of the Free Outside Podcast, I break down my full race plan for the 2025 Cocodona 250, the massive 250-mile ultra across Arizona. I walk you through how I’m approaching the unusually cold weather, the new technical course changes, and the long stretches without pacers. I explain why I’m planning to go out more aggressively this year, how I’m dialing in my carbs, salt, and hydration, and where I’ll rely on my crew and pacers the most. I share my split predictions, the key sections I’m watching for, and some honest reflections on how far...

On today’s episode of the Free Outside Show, I’m joined by runner, ultimate frisbee enthusiast, and Cocodona crewing expert Allison Mercer. We relive wild stories from the inaugural Cocodona 250 — from cactus naps and glass-covered descents to heckling runners mid-race. We talk predictions for this year’s showdown, the “Courtney effect,” and whether European pros will shift the ultra scene. We debate mind games, pacing strategies, why volunteering matters, and why Cocodona is basically ultrarunning’s March Madness.

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On this wild episode of the Free Outside Podcast, we talk with filmmaker Derrick Lytle and into everything Cocodona 250 — from race predictions and course changes to the strength-versus-speed debate heating up in the ultra scene. But first? We take on the internet’s most absurd hypothetical: could 100 men beat a silverback gorilla? (Spoiler: probably not.) We trade predictions on Courtney Dauwalter, Ryan Sandes, Mike McKnight, and more while roasting obstacle racers, dissecting mud strategies, and dreaming up the ultimate post-race media blitz. Expect hot takes, cold-weather prep, and plenty of laughs in this pre-race breakdown of one of the most...

On today's episode of the Free Outside Podcast, I’m joined by outdoor filmmaker Drew Darby, and we cover everything from his unexpected start filming inside prisons to becoming one of the most exciting filmmakers in ultrarunning. We dive into how working in sensitive environments shaped his storytelling, the chaos (and comedy) of filming 100-mile races, and why long-form content is making a comeback. Drew shares his thoughts on building a career in the outdoor film industry, what it’s like to turn passion into a full-time job, and the importance of telling deeper stories beyond the race results. Plus...

I sit down with Doc, the voice behind Hiker Trash Radio—a podcast that’s interviewed over 450 adventurers from thru-hikers to Barkley Marathons legends. We dive deep into Doc’s wild behind-the-scenes experience covering the 2024 Barkley Marathons as a first-time invited media member. From nearly camping in the wrong forest to building trust at the Yellow Gate, he shares how he captured the stories of runners, crews, and chaos at one of the world’s most mysterious races.

Check out the Barkley Marathons Bonus Episodes: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5KrLfLJn9Joy6PwwX3uEFR?si=88778...

I sit down with Tim and Renee—better known as Simply the ⁨@reneeandtim⁩ . These two have thru-hiked the Pacific Crest Trail (PCT) and Continental Divide Trail (CDT), set a Fastest Known Time (FKT), and built a massive online audience with their content on backpacking, ultrarunning, and dehydrated trail meals.

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We talk about their full-time careers in plant genetics and engineering to out...

I sit down with Peter Mortimer, the champion of the inaugural Arizona Monster 300-miler. Just hours after finishing, Pete was back at work—because ultrarunning is expensive and PTO is a myth. We talk about his strategy for managing sleep, how he trains for 200+ mile races, and what it’s like to hallucinate a jaguar that turns out to be an actual cow.

Follow Pete Mortimer on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/pjmortimer/

We also dive into Pete’s “finish it once” race mentality, his plans to take on the Triple...

I’m recording live (well, semi-live) while running through mossy, Jurassic Park-like trails outside Portland. Just minutes in, I round a corner and meet a man with a blood-covered hand telling me someone stabbed his dog with a switchblade. So naturally... I kept running.

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In this chaotic on-foot monologue, I dive into the Gorge Waterfalls 100K, which just happened to be the USA Trail Team selection race for the Mountain Ultra Trail World Championships. I talk through the carnage (th...

Today on the Free Outside Podcast, I talk with Connor “Jackrabbit” Chapdelaine, who’s attempting the Calendar Year Triple Crown—thru-hiking the Appalachian Trail, Pacific Crest Trail, and Continental Divide Trail all in a single year. We break down how the idea got planted during a hike on the AT, what it takes to train for 8,000 miles, and why he’s bringing a pillow, a stove, and maybe even a thermos.

Follow Connor/Jackrabbit online: https://www.instagram.com/JackrabbitHikes/

Connor shares his strategy for navigating snow in the Sierra, reroutes on the PCT, and fires on t...

I sit down with pro ultrarunner Alyssa Clark to talk about racing at the highest level, dealing with self-worth and performance, and why hallucinating pandas might be a sign you're doing something right.

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Alyssa just won the legendary Hurt 100 and holds the Supported FKT on the Pinhoti Trail, but her journey to the top has been anything but easy. We dive into her start in ultras (skipping the marathon entirely), the challenges of racing in...

In this episode, I dive into the recent controversy surrounding the Arizona Monster trail race, where a failed live stream led to a very public clash between the race director and the live stream operator. I break down what happened, explore how social media amplified the drama, and share some thoughts on how these kinds of disputes can be handled more constructively. Along the way, I also talk about what I’ve been learning in my recent training camp and reflect on the importance of keeping conflict resolution behind the scenes whenever possible—for the good of the sport and...

Today on the Free Outside Podcast, I sit down with the voice of Cocodona and one of the most passionate people in trail running media—Chris Worden. With over 150 races on UltraSignup and years of experience in both radio and accounting, Chris shares the wild journey from small-town sports broadcasting to being the emotional anchor of ultrarunning’s most epic live streams.

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We talk about what goes into calling a multi-day race like Cocodona, the behind-the-scenes chaos (including some live broa...

This one’s a little different—no guests, no live race calls—just me sharing the full story of how I went from a bullied high school runner to a thru-hiker to an ultra runner trying to get comfortable being uncomfortable.

I talk about quitting school to hike the Pacific Crest Trail, building a monster endurance base through FKTs and 8,000-mile slogs, and how I’ve had to completely rewire my brain and body to embrace faster, higher-effort racing. We hit on pacing, fueling, treadmill hiking, crew control issues (yes, I admit it), and why I “J...

On this episode of the Free Outside Podcast, I sit down with the multi-talented and wildly entertaining Chad Lubinski. Chad is one of the most well-rounded people I’ve ever met—he’s a thru-hiker, ultra runner, backcountry skier, climber, jujitsu practitioner, and full-time content creator. If you’ve been listening for a while, you may recognize him as the guy who once interviewed me—and now he’s back for his third appearance.

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The Barkley Marathons is an ultra-endurance race that challenges participants both physically and mentally. Originating from a prison break, the race is notorious for its difficulty, secretive entry process, and unique navigation requirements. Only a handful of runners have completed the race, which is designed to push competitors to their limits. The conversation explores the race's history, structure, and the community surrounding it, highlighting the mental toughness required to participate and the inspiration it provides to runners.

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I just ran in circles for 12 hours—and somehow, I had a blast. In this episode, I break down my experience at a fixed-time ultra, a 12-hour race on a looped course in Boise. Why did I do it? To test my fueling, sodium, and hydration strategies ahead of Cocodona 250. I dive into the numbers, what worked, what didn’t, and the mental lessons I took away—including how I let the course record change my race plan (oops). I also talk about my pre-race anxiety, dealing with mid-race curveballs, and how a simple gear change solved an unexpected issue...

On this episode of The Free Outside Podcast, I sit down with long-time friend and outdoor entrepreneur Luke Pearsall, the founder of Trail Goods Co, a new freeze-dried camping meal brand. Luke shares his winding path from working on major Hollywood productions like Lost and Entourage, to becoming an adventure guide in South America, and ultimately, to launching his own freeze dried food company.

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We dive into:

The...

In this episode of the Free Outside Show, I share a series of thrilling and humorous animal encounters from his extensive outdoor adventures. From close calls with moose and grizzly bears to unexpected interactions with goats and mice, I recount my experiences with wildlife while hiking and trail running. I also touches on human interactions in the wild and share rapid-fire stories of various animal encounters, culminating in his recent trail work experience. This episode captures the essence of outdoor adventure and the unpredictability of nature.

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In this episode, I break down my complete training approach for the Cocodona 250, one of the toughest ultramarathons out there. I dive into my background in trail running, FKTs, and endurance racing, sharing how I structure my training using a polarized model to maximize performance and longevity. I outline my weekly training schedule, how I manage injuries and recovery, and the nutrition and fueling strategies that keep me going strong in multi-day races. I also discuss the importance of heart rate monitoring and how I train my mindset for the grueling 250-mile challenge. Whether you're training for your first...

This episode is pure storytelling chaos. I sat down with Joe "Stringbean" McConaughy, and we covered everything from FKTs gone wrong to ultra running hallucinations and how his dog literally ate his golden ticket. We relive our worst gear failures, talk about what it really takes to push through a 200-miler, and debate whether burping is the key to ultra success (yes, seriously). Joe shares his journey from setting the Pacific Crest Trail record to coaching and racing at the highest level, and we swap war stories about the Arizona Trail, John Muir Trail, and why we both seem...

I’ve spent years hiking, running, and living on public lands. I’ve slept on BLM land when I didn’t have a home, hiked trails maintained by crews that just got laid off, and even worked for the federal government myself. So when I see massive funding cuts to the National Park Service, the BLM, and the U.S. Forest Service, I'm worried what’s at stake—and it’s not just a few overgrown trails.

These cuts mean fewer rangers, fewer fire crews, fewer trail maintenance teams, and fewer resources to keep the places w...

I talk with Helen Mino Faulkner, a professional trail runner who recently placed fourth at the Tarwera 100k. We discuss her decision to turn down a golden ticket to Western States 100, her experiences racing in New Zealand, and the challenges of training through winter in Truckee. Helen shares her journey back to running after a hiatus, the importance of excitement in racing, and how living in a seasonal environment contributes to success.

We also explore her path to becoming a professional athlete, the role of yoga, and the differences she has experienced racing in...

In this episode of The Free Outside Podcast, I chat with thru-hiker and content creator Stella Hikes, who is preparing for one of the biggest challenges in long-distance hiking—the Calendar Year Triple Crown. Stella shares her hiking background, the inspiration behind attempting this ambitious feat, and the intense planning process required to hike the Appalachian Trail (AT), Pacific Crest Trail (PCT), and Continental Divide Trail (CDT) in a single year.

We dive into her experience on the long trails, her approach to efficiency and nutrition, her strategy for tackling snow and weather challenges, an...

On this episode of the Free Outside Podcast, we welcome Will Murray, a math teacher, coach, and elite runner who recently punched his ticket to Western States 100. Will shares his unique journey from growing up in Georgia as a baseball player to rediscovering running after college, transitioning from cycling to trail racing, and ultimately shocking the ultra world with a Golden Ticket win at Black Canyon 100K.

Our Black Canyon Coverage: https://youtu.be/SO-6YkxWczM?si=IXEDglz96vCwI6p7

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Topics:🏃‍♂️ Will’s path to t...

I sit down with Kelly Newlon—runner, chef, agent, Nuggets fan, and all-around community builder. Kelly shares the journey of founding RAD (Real Athlete Diets), a business that blends her love for trail running and cooking, and how she went from feeding friends training for races to fueling elite athletes on FKTs and multi-day expeditions. We dive into what it takes to support endurance athletes, the challenges of meal planning for unpredictable cravings, and her work as an agent helping athletes navigate sponsorships and contracts.

Kelly also shares insights into the outdoor industry, the gr...

In this solo episode of The Free Outside Show, I’m answering some of the biggest running questions I’ve been getting lately—especially around heat training, endurance nutrition, speed work, Ketones, Sodium Bicarbonate, and recovery. I break down the best strategies for sauna sessions, heat adaptation, and passive heat training, plus how to avoid overdoing it.

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I also dive into race-day and ultra running nutrition, covering carbs, hydration, and gut training so you can perform your best without bonking. And of course, I tackle the big question of spe...

We're back with the most requested guest of the Free Outside Podcast—except it's just me requesting him. For his third appearance, Derrick Lytle joins the show to break down the Black Canyon 100K with the most in-depth, possibly inaccurate, but definitely entertaining preview out there.

We discuss the dreamers and receivers of golden tickets, the state of ultra running rivalries (hint: we just ignited one), and why Hayden Hawks could still win this race from New Zealand. We also cover influencer participation (or lack thereof), how to look good for the live stream, an...

On today’s episode of the Free Outside Show, we’re joined by Grant Barnette—a thru-hiker turned Pro ultrarunner who has tackled some of the toughest races in the world. Grant has hiked the Appalachian Trail and Pacific Crest Trail, holds the DC Peaks 50 course record, placed 2nd at Grindstone 100, 5th at Speedgoat 50K, and was the third American at CCC at UTMB. Most recently, he signed a pro contract with Craft.

Follow Grant online: https://www.instagram.com/runwithgrant/

We dive into how he transitioned from carrying a heav...

🔥 Jamil Coury vs. Kevin Russ – The Battle for Local Legend! 🔥 In this episode, I catch up with Jamil Coury and Kevin Russ—while they’re literally running back and forth on a 0.22-mile Chipotle Strava segment in Tempe, Arizona! These two endurance athletes have taken on the wildest challenge in sports right now: logging the most segments in January to win free Chipotle for a year. 🏆🌯 Jamil, the founder of Aravaipa Running, and Kevin, a thru-hiker, ultra-endurance athlete, and videographer, are putting in insane mileage—think 70-mile days on the same stretch of pavement—as they battle for the title. I interviewed t...

I’m joined by Ken Seals, the creator of The Ultra Minute on Substack, for an exciting and wide-ranging episode of the podcast! Fun fact: a hurricane is what led Ken to running. We dive into the trends we hope to see emerge in 2025, bold predictions for the future of ultrarunning, and some of the key happenings during the sport’s so-called “off season.”

Find the Ultra Minute on Substack: https://ultraminute.substack.com/

This conversation covers a little bit of everything: the rise of longer races like Cocodona and their growing appeal, what we can expe...

In this episode, I sit down with Brooke Bjorge, the owner of Grit Sports Nutrition and an athlete herself, to dive into the critical role of sodium in endurance sports. We cover everything from the dangers of hyponatremia and how to avoid cramping in an ultramarathon, to the differences between sodium citrate and sodium chloride and why it matters for performance.

Brooke also shares insights on sweat testing, building personalized hydration plans, and navigating the high-carb fueling trends in endurance racing. Whether you're training for a thru-hike, tackling a 100-miler, or just want to optimize your performance...

In this episode of the Free Outside Podcast, I sit down with Matthew Shepard—better known as Shep—to talk all things trail running, ultra-endurance racing, and his incredible journey in the outdoors. From growing up wandering the wilderness with a rifle in hand to becoming a standout competitor in backyard ultras and the Director of Field Operations at Sinister Sports, Shep’s story is nothing short of inspiring.

Follow Shep online: https://www.instagram.com/go_shep/ We dive into the unique dynamics of backyard ultras, Shep’s strategies for enduring multi-day races, and some of his wild...

In this episode of the Free Outside podcast, I’m joined by Pete Deneen, a climate scientist, award-winning writer, and the Chief Executive of the Keep Sespe Wild Foundation. Together, we dive into the wildfires that have devastated California, including the recent LA firestorm, one of the most costly and destructive disasters in U.S. history.

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Pete brings his deep knowledge of climate science and his personal experience living in the fire-prone Sespe wilderness to the conversation. We break down what makes these fires so intense, the factors fueling them, an...

In this solo episode of the Free Outside Podcast, I’m sharing all about my recent trip to Big Bend National Park—a week packed with hiking, backpacking, and adventure. From spotting javelinas to scrambling up Emory Peak at sunset, I dive into how this trip fits into my training for FKTs and ultra races like the Cocodona 250 and Big Horn 100.

patreon.com/freeoutside I also break down my plans for 2025, including a self-supported southbound Appalachian Trail FKT attempt and exciting interviews I’ve lined up with top athletes, calendar year Triple Crowners, and more. Along the way, I...

In this episode of the Free Outside Show, I share my journey from ideas to goals, discussing my plans for the Appalachian Trail record and the importance of creativity in trail running. I reflect on the impact of COVID on past goals, explore the role of ketones in endurance sports, and emphasize the growth of his podcast and personal development. I also delve into fueling strategies for endurance events, highlighting the need for balance and experimentation in training.

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-Ideas can evolve into dreams and then into...

In this episode of the Free Outside Podcast, I dive into one of the hottest (and coldest) topics sweeping the endurance sports world: passive heat exposure and cold plunging. Whether you're a runner, cyclist, triathlete, or just curious about optimizing recovery and performance, this episode has you covered.

Support the podcast at Patreon.com/freeoutside I explore the science, benefits, and potential downsides of cold plunges—discussing how they reduce inflammation, build mental toughness, and help with rapid recovery, but might blunt long-term training adaptations. Then, I shift gears to heat training, unpacking how saunas, hot baths, an...

In this conversation, Katie Gunvalson shares her journey attempting the Pacific Crest Trail (PCT) Fastest Known Time (FKT) in 2024. She discusses her long-standing dream of hiking the PCT, her training and preparation, the challenges she faced including fire closures, and how she found motivation despite setbacks. Katie reflects on the intrinsic value of her experience, the highs and lows of the trail, and her determination to push through to the end, culminating in a remarkable final push to complete the trail. In this conversation, Katie shares her experiences and insights from her journey on the Pacific Crest Trail (PCT...

In this special episode, Jeff Garmire and Derrick Lytle bring the laughs with The Jeffrey Awards—trail running’s greatest trophy! Join us as we hilariously crown winners in outrageous categories celebrating the best, worst, and downright weirdest moments of the trail running and ultra community.

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🏆 Categories & Nominees:

Most Obvious New Race Director: Finn Melanson, Dylan Bowman, Jeff Garmire, Wes Siler

We Should Be Your Publicist Award: Camille Herron, UTMB, Spring Energy, Crazy Mountain 100

Most Tragic FKT: Katie Gunvalson (PCT fail on day 1...

I’m taking you along on a six-day, 150-mile adventure through Los Padres National Forest. It was a trip filled with poison oak, endless bushwhacking, and some questionable decision-making—like losing my hiking partner for a whole night. I’ll share everything, from battling overgrown trails to soaking in clothing-optional sespe hot springs, hitchhiking with a pigeon-loving driver, and trying not to let poison oak ruin the whole thing. This episode’s a bit experimental with trail audio clips mixed in, but hey, that’s how we roll.

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This week on the Free Outside podcast, I continue my epic journey through the month of Jeff with an extraordinary guest: Jeff Jenkins, professional traveler, TV host, and all-around inspiring human. We dive into Jeff’s journey from taking his first flight at 20 years old to becoming a globe-trotting storyteller featured in Forbes and the New York Times.

We talk about his first transformative experience in Japan, his approach to capturing content that inspires others, and how he’s opening up the travel world for plus-size adventurers. Jeff shares behind-the-scenes insights into his Nat Geo TV show, his...

Welcome to another epic installment of The Month of Jeff! In this episode, I’m joined by the one and only Jeff Hester, a trailblazing adventurer who’s done it all—from hiking the John Muir Trail 30 years apart to founding the Six Pack of Peaks Challenge and SoCalHiker.net .

Find Jeff Hester on the internet: https://www.instagram.com/jeffhester/

Jeff shares incredible stories about thru-hiking in the 1980s (hello, mimeographed itineraries and DIY dehydrated meals!) and how his love for the outdoors evolved into building a vibrant hiking community. We dive d...

In this episode of the Free Outside Podcast, I sit down with filmmaker, fast-packer, and trail runner Jeff Pelletier to explore the intersection of storytelling and adventure. Jeff shares his journey from marathons to the trails, how he balances racing with creating stunning films, and the meticulous planning that goes into his multi-day fast-packing projects and race documentaries.

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We dive into the art of capturing a narrative while on the move, his experiences with stage races, the challenges of gear and logistics, and how he’s carved out a career as...

A dynamic conversation with the legendary Jeff Browning on the Free Outside Podcast. With over 200 ultra marathons, 40 wins, and a record-breaking career spanning decades, Jeff shares invaluable insights on longevity in ultrarunning, mindset training, and his approach to coaching. We dive into the evolution of the sport, gear innovations, nutrition strategies, and some wild stories, including his adventures in 200-mile races and the Colorado Trail. This episode is packed with inspiration, laughter, and actionable takeaways for runners of all levels. Don't miss this deep dive into the world of ultrarunning!

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In this special "Month of Jeff" episode of the Free Outside Podcast, I’m joined by the multi-talented Jeffrey James Binney—a comedian, filmmaker, ultra runner, and all-around adventurer. We dive into some deeply relatable topics like imposter syndrome, navigating failure, and finding joy in unexpected hobbies. Jeffrey shares his journey from performing on stage to running 100-mile races and thru-hiking the Pacific Crest Trail, offering insights on embracing discomfort, the power of persistence, and even how comedy shaped his resilience.

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We discuss the challenges of public success, the...

The month of Jeff continues with this sit down with the incredible Jeff Colt, an elite ultrarunner who’s won the Bandera 100K to claim a golden ticket to Western States, set the FKT on the White Mountain Hut Traverse, run at the World Championships, and has a top-10 finish at Western States. We cover everything from what it’s like traveling with a giant golden ticket to his journey from competitive skiing in New Hampshire to competing on the trails.

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Jeff shares hilarious stor...

In this episode of the Free Outside podcast, I had the pleasure of chatting with fellow Montana trail runner and Western States golden ticket holder, Jeff Mogavero. We covered everything from Taylor Swift treadmill workouts to the chaos of UTMB and the science behind his incredible heat management strategies at Javelina.

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Jeff shared hilarious stories, like being approached by a jacked USADA official for post-race drug testing while he was flopping around at the finish line, and explained how his “beer gut of ice” strategy helped him crus...

The 2024 Gear Game Changers

1. Adidas Terrex Agravic Speed Trail

Trail running and hiking require shoes that can handle technical terrain, and the Adidas Agravic Trail Shoe exceeded expectations. With exceptional grip, comfort, and durability, this shoe became my go-to for demanding trails. Whether it was long races or quick outings, these shoes delivered every step of the way.

2. Nitecore NU25 Headlamp

If you’ve ever been caught in the dark without a reliable light, you know how important a good headlamp is. The Nitecore NU25 offers lightweight design, powerful brightness, and long...

David Sinclair may have a case for Trail Runner of the Year after the most impressive race of the year. He broke the course record at JFK 50 miler. This is a race that Jim Walmsley, Adam Peterman, and Zach Miller have run, and he broke Hayden Hawks record by 10 minutes!

We discuss his race strategy, the importance of nutrition, and the unique challenges of transitioning between trail and road shoes. Sinclair reflects on his journey to recognition and sponsorship in the ultra-running community, balancing his passions for skiing and trail running. He emphasizes the significance of strength...

The Free Outside Show, Jeff Garmire reflects on a challenging few weeks, the growth of his podcast, and the valuable lessons he's learned from interviewing some of the biggest names in ultra running, including David Roche, Tara Dower, Nick Fowler, and Frank Gielen.

Jeff shares transformative insights on fueling strategies, the importance of daily structure, and how mindset can make or break performance. Dive into discussions about high-carb fueling, cross-training, and the power of belief in achieving ultra running goals. Along the way, Jeff also opens up about his personal journey—why starting this podcast pushed him ou...

Jeff Garmire interviews Nick Fowler, who shares his experience of Breaking the Fastest Known Time (FKT) on the Arizona Trail. The conversation covers Nick's recovery process after the trail, his nutrition strategies, the challenges he faced during the attempt, and the emotional moments he experienced along the way. Nick reflects on his training, the importance of mental toughness, and his future plans for more FKTs.

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Find Nick on the internet!

His book "Itch": https://www.amazon.com/Itch-Pacific-Northwest-Trail-Story-ebook/dp/B0CWMYRQXK

Instagram: https...

In this conversation, ultra runner David Roche discusses his journey in the sport, his coaching philosophy, and the importance of community and vulnerability in running. He shares insights on balancing personal goals with coaching responsibilities, the mindset required for ultra races, and the significance of running economy in performance.

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Roche emphasizes the need for athletes to embrace vulnerability and shoot for big goals, while also highlighting the collaborative nature of coaching with his partner, Megan Roche. In this conversation, David and...