Borderlands Trail (+ Ultra) Running

Allie Gibbons ran The Speed Project in the Atacama Desert while 22 weeks pregnant. Prior to that, she ran Bigfoot 200 in the Washington wilderness after just learning that she was pregnant.

Presented by Kiprun.

In this conversation, they discuss the challenges of ultra running, the unique experience of being pregnant during such a demanding race, and the mental and physical preparations required.

Allie shares insights on health monitoring, the emotional waves experienced during long races, and the camaraderie found within the ultra running community. The conversation also touches on the transition from road to...

Josh Rosenthal and Inky Steve explore the future of running gear, discussing innovations in shoe design, the impact of cultural elements like movies on running, and the competitive landscape of brands in the industry.

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They share insights from the TRE event, highlight the rise of smaller brands, and reflect on their experiences with various running products, including the Naked belt. The discussion emphasizes the importance of community and personal preferences in the running world.

Brands discussed:

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I still consider myself a trail runner even though I never run on trails. I'm trail runner-ish.

There are a lot of people bringing light into the world through running. Let's talk about a few of them - Tommy Lewis, Josh Lynott, Nils Arend, Dean Karnazes, and more.

Presented by Kiprun.

Yes, we're presented by Kiprun but I also think they are the next big running brand coming out of France. Salomon and Hoka both started here. If Kiprun build momentum and iterate/improve year after year on the portfolio they just released...

At the beginning of 2025 did an episode where we looked at a bunch of brands and trends in trail running and evaluated if we were optimistic about their future (buy) or pessimistic (sell)

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In this episode I review my predictions and assess if they were right or wrong on these topics:

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The Dude Abides and would probably never wear trail running shoes. But we love this movie too much so Josh asked Inky, what shoes go best with The Big Lebowski? Slides. Super chill running recover slides.

There's a boom in them right now. You see them popping up all over the place and there's actually some innovation happening.

But at the end of the day, The Dude would wear the hell out of some recover slides and we have a blast exploring it.

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Mike Herrera and MxPx have been playing for 30 years. I was there from the beginning so I was stoked to do this interview with an all time great and hero of mine.

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Mike knows a thing or two about endurance and keeping on when life and circumstances get you down.

Enjoy.

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I stopped using strava and found 7 bugs that ended up being features.

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Here are the bugs.

Listen to find out how these became features.

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James Lauriello joined Josh to talk trail running from multiple angles. James is the host of the Steep Stuff Podcast and an athlete for La Sportiva.

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Ryan Becker runs for Naked Sports Innovations and competes at the highest level in mountain running.

He brings an honest and analytical view of the sport that feels fresh and from the heart. In this episode they discuss the difference between being a pro runner and an elite runner.

You don't have to be a pro running fan to enjoy this episode.

Ryan runs for Naked Sports Innovations

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Let's put Taylor Bodin to the test.

Josh went to Running Warehouse and selected some top sellers and quized Taylor. How did he do?

Also, we dove into Mount to Coast.

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Taylor Bodin is the Believe in the Run's Dirt Division.

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I've never interviewed someone so at peace with themselves. This interview with Ian Morgan felt real and honest and kind. There's something in his eyes that I think we all want.

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In this interview we talk about his relationship with alcohol, the sedentary life, and the way he left it behind.

He also died once while running and came back to life to tell the story.

Take this episode with you on a run to find inspiration to keep going.

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Brett Harrison started Red Knot Racing Co. as an expression of his heart for Tanzania, Tanzanians, and running.  His first mission, however, is not running.  It's community development.

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Brett moved to Tanzania in 2009 where, among other things, he helped improve agricultral practices.  But over time, his staff grew to 15 local Tanzanians who started putting on endurance events at the base of Kilimanjaro and to this day is the only organization permitted to do them year after year.

But again, its not about the races.  Races are a means of c...

Borderlands Trail Running began 2025 planning to grow the podcast by 10x by year's end. How are we looking?

Presented by Naked Sports Innovations

In this episode we take a quick inventory of the whole thing. What's happeing with Borderlands' media arm, our mobile app, Wylder, our race organization Open Range Races?

Tune in to find out.

And if you're in the family, please give 5 star reviews on your podcast platform(s) of choice.

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Jason Schlarb started his running career ~15 years ago when the frontier of ultrarunning was much less developed.

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Today, while still running at an elite level himself, Jason is managing the Norda athlete team in a way that was impossible through most of his career.

Josh and Jason had a chat in a loud restaurant after a hard (for Josh) run in Annecy, France celebrating the Norda 005s along with French running store Quatorze.

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Rocky Raccoon is an iconic rooty and rootsy East Texas race that many great runners run as a right of passage.

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Jordan rightfully places Rocky Raccoon 100 in the upper eschelon of Texas Trail ultrarunning races comparing its endless loops to Lightnin' Hopkins and the endless 12 bar blues.

Thanks to our special guests: Zach Bitter, Joe Prusaitis, PJ Izaguirre, Brandon Dutra, and Chris McWatters.

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Caleb Bowen, XC Coach at Marshall University, has been running at a high level for a long time. He's part of the crew putting West Virginia on the map (the Bargain Boys).

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In the lead up to Javelina Jundred, Caleb talks about last years 14:20 finish and how he thinks he can make up time on it.

He took M1 at Hurricane 100k last month and now looks to bring his fitness and experience back to Javelina Jundred 2025.

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Careth Arnold is having an all time great season capped by a win at TDS at UTMB where she became the first American winner of TDS, a super hard and technical race.

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9 days later she ran and won Hurricane 100k, a much more runnable course than TDS proving shes got the fitness and speed necessary to toe the line at Javelina Jundred this week.

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Sage Canaday has been running and contributing the sport of running at a high level for a very long time and we're honored to host him today. We consider him a legend and among the finest and grittiest runners of the last two decades.

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He's preparing for Javelina Jundred this week and we are celebrating the race and a few of its notable runners kicking off with Sage Canaday.

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The Mount to Coast H1s are affordable, well-designed, and durable. The problem? Inventory. They've rolled these out so well that they're hard to get in some markets.

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Inky and Josh jump in talk H1s, Hoka's revival of the Speedgoat 2s, Inkys run for the homeless of Manchester, pricing strategy, and more.

Are the Mount to Coast H1s a competitor of the Norda 005?

We explore.

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We're digging into your comments and phone calls today from the Hyperlyte Hotlyne.

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Mike Krazter wrote an article about Biel where he said "Berlin runs on extremes, and Biel is one of its secret engines."

Biel runs far and fast and often on the streets of Berlin training for the 24 Hour World Championships where he will run for his home country of Brazil.

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He ran TSP solo and unsupported from Chamonix to Marseille (find out in this episode why he didn't finish).

Pay attention to Biel. He's net good for the running world.

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Presented by Naked Sports Innovations. David Hedges set the Nolan's 14 FKT. Francois D'Haene took it from him besting him by 3+ hours. And now David Hedges beat him by 10 minutes.

Watch the film soar running released with footage and story from the effort.

Join Josh Rosenthal and Sam Lohse as they talk about this and the WURL FKT (the Hardrock of the Wasatch).

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Josh has been aggregating wisdom and insight for years now and in this episode I piece together some the most helpful I've received.

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In this episode we get insight from Matt Johnson, Dylan Bowman, Michael Whiteside, Jeremy Cox, Elsa Jaworski, Jesse Rich, Anthony Costales, Candice Burt, and Tamar Hicks.

Cue this up as you prepare for your next big thing.

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Patrick Stangbye co-founded of Portal, contributed for years to ROA, and just generally exists in the zeitgeist.

He joined us to about his recent effort at TDS and how he'll go bigger and harder next year.

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Josh's opinion on Patrick Stangbye x Zara.

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John-Ruben started UNNA. This Stockholm-based brand represents the heart and soul of running beyond speed and competition. They say "it's not about finishing in first place, it's about finishing in a good place."

I can not explain it full here. I ask that if I've earned your trust in the last few years that you would simply press play and enjoy it.

Check out the UNNA x HOKA collab.

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Jesse Rich (Nutrition Rundown) joins us again to talk about his recent victory at Run Rabbit Run. We talk about the nutrition he used to get him across the finish line in first place and how its a plan that works for non-elite runners as well.

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Sam Lohse joins Josh to celebrate Jesse and his recent win.

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Inky and Josh have been comparing iconic trail running shoes to iconic movies and today's will be hard to beat now and forever more. We look at Hunter S. Thompson, theROCKER by Satisfy Running, and Fear + Loathing in Las Vegas.

Satisy appeals to the myth of the west and the american dream inherent within it. This is nothing if not Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas.

Enjoy.

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It's a huge weekend for pro trail running fans. The Mammoth 200 and the World Champs. Fancy this a companion. Also, we start with listener calls, comments, and messages.

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Jimmy Elam has been running big for years. He's won 1st at Cascade Crest, High Lonesome, Wasatch 100, the Bear, the Canyons, and more.

And now he toes the line at theMAMMOTH 200 ready to compete with other greats like Tara Dower, Max Jolliffe, Rachel Entrekin, Timmy Olson, and more.

It's an inaugural year for theMAMMOTH and it will be hard to beat it in future years with this line up.

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Rachel Entrekin's Race Stats are incredible as we explore here. She has won her last 12 races with two of those 12 being very competitive Cocadon 250 races.

She's prepared for the Mammoth 200 and she took a few minutes to join me and Wolfie (in wolfie's final appearance on Borderlands Podcast Network) to talk about the big race.

Join me at the International Running Expo - (IRX)

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Tim Tollefson started Mammoth Trailfest and this year, with the help of Hilary Yang, he's adding a 200 miler after the fest ends call theMAMMOTH. It's quite an accomplishment to wrangle a 200 miler and add to that a marquee year one field with names like Tara Dower, Rachel Entrekin, Max Jolliffe, Jimmy Elam, Jeff Browning, Tim Olson and more.

In this episode we discuss the $20,000 prize purse, livestream and build general hype for what has all the ingredients to be a great race for years to come.

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Max Jolliffe is original. He's sponsored by Satisfy & BPN? No one else can touch that. He's brought together two very distinct communities. More of that, please.

Max is running theMAMMOTH 200 and we caught up with him for 10 minutes to chat about it and more.

Also, the unhinged meme account MAXJOLLIFFEUNSOLICITEDMEMES has a message at the end about Max.

Join me at the International Running Expo - (IRX)

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Josh Rosenthal, Taylor Spike, and Kade Wilcox dig in on the heart and act of trail running at big distances. Taylor talks about how he keeps going when he wants to quit.

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In this episode of Full Price Athlete with Kade Wilcox, Joe Corcione shares his transformative journey from battling addiction to becoming an ultra-endurance athlete. He discusses the pivotal role of passion in his success, the mental fortitude required for ultra marathons, and the importance of having a purpose greater than the pain. Joe also offers practical advice for aspiring ultra runners, emphasizing the significance of belief and resilience in achieving seemingly impossible goals.

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Welcome to Trail Icons: Texas a new series by Jordan Gracey for Borderlands.

Jordan delves into the Bandera 100k (and Cactus Rose) in Texas, exploring their history, challenges, and unique aspects. Featuring insights from race organizers and participants, it highlights what makes these races special in the trail running community.

In this episode, Jordan features Joe Prusaitis (Bandera Founder), Brad Quin, Zach Bitter, Erik Stanley (founder of Trail Roots).

Expect to learn about the history of a Trail Icon: Bandera from the founders and iconic contributors to its success over the past years.<...

Make sure you get the full episode on Wolfie’s World (spotify | apple).

Today is a quick run through of everything going on at Borderlands. Give this quick episode a listen to not only know what's happening in the world of trail running at Borderlands but also as a look into Borderlands' ambition as a media company.

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Emma Giebler ran Wasatch this passed weekend and got dead last. Three years ago she ran and got 2nd to last (dead last female).

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In this episode Josh (host) and Emma relive the 2022 running of the Wasatch 100 where they met at Ant Knolls Aid Station when Emma looked totally and complete done. She popped and kept going.

Brilliant and inspiring.

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Join host Kade Wilcox (Full Price Athlete: spotify | apple) as he delves into the world of ultra running with guests Abraham Bejil and Edgar Lozoya. Discover the journeys of these two athletes as they prepare for the Moab 240, sharing insights on training, overcoming personal challenges, and the dedication required to pursue their passion.

Doug Mayer joined Josh in Chamonix as UTMB was in full swing to talk about his new book the Last of the Giants. It's a great read to enjoy alone or with your kids surprisingly as the illustrations are breathtaking and accessible.

We also talked about Doug's previous book: the Race that Changed Running about the short history of UTMB.

Not to mention his iconic Run the Alps enterprise bringing runners from all over the world to enjoy brilliant runs in the unmatched beauty of the alps.

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Mike Kratzer and Tom Reynolds sat down with Josh to talk about UTMB and TSP while sitting on the street having lunch together in Chamonix.

In this episode you'll hear the street sounds of Chamonix just as Tom Evans ran past for the win.

They explore the soulful side of endurance running and talk about the value of UTMB and TSP to endurance runners.

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Emily Hawgood is mowing down results - WSER 2025 (10th), The Canyons (1st), UTMB 2024 (6th). She toes the line at UTMB 2025 with all the evidence necessary to support an optimistic outcome.

Join Josh + Wolfie.

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Dan Green is coming off a crazy year of success and growth - signed to Salomon, Cocadona (1st), Western States (12), Javalina Jundred (3rd). And now he's preparing to test his Mont Blanc legs at CCC 2025.

Join Josh + Wolfie.

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Hannah Allgood runs with heart and passion. She's coming off an incredible year at Western States (7th), The Canyons 50k (1st), Javalina Jundred (2nd). She's stoked and ready for a speedy OCC at the 2025 UTMB.

Join Josh + Wolfie.

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Josh and Wolfie interview Jason Schlarb, one of the all time greats still performing at a high level after 15 years. He runs for Norda and also manages their team.

He's preparing to run the most competitve race in the world, UTMB.

It's hard to find a photo of him not wearing the Norda 005s.

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Abel Recknold manages the Craft athlete team and is onsite taking care of the team and prepping them however he can to be ready for UTMB 2025.

We understand what happens after the gun goes off and runners start racing. Its intuitive to us. But what about prep? How do they get ready for race day? Abel explains.

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Lotti Brinks crushed races like Gorge Waterfalls and Desert Rats. Now she gets ready for CCC at UTMB. We caught up with her at Hoka's Training Camp to talk about her prep for the world's most competitive 100k.

Mafate 5s out now.

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Allison Baca runs for Hoka (Mafate 5's out now) and will toe the line at CCC next week and the World Championships in late September.

Today she joins us from UTMB camp in Chamonix to talk about preparing for race day and juggling a million things to make it work.

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Hayden Hawks is one of the greatest American Ultratrail Runners of all time.

He is preparing to run UTMB 2025 and joined Josh and Wolfie to talk about it.

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Kade is looking for insight and tips on mental strength as he prepares for the Moab 240. He's joined by Ben Light, an ultrarunning legend, to talk and think through his preparation to run 5x further than he's ever run before.

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The 2025 UTMB field is DEEP at all the marquee distances. 2025 is a great year to be a trail running fan thanks to multpile course records falling. It seems like every course record either fell or was close to it.

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And Leadville! Leadville has been doing its own thing for years without care of concern for outsider criticism (and rightly so). But after two epic years in a row, its becoming 'can't-miss' again.

If you don't want leadville talk skip to ~29:00.

Fabrice Perrin, UTMB's Chief of Sport and Sustainability, heard our Bad Runners Take, where we largely celebrated UTMB but also critiqued the new mandatory Travel Fee for 2026, initially applied to runners traveling to the Chamonix Main Event.

UTMB creates strong demand for their event, only to impose a variable fee that increases with travel distance, impacting runners coming from farther away.

Is it greenwashing? Fabrice responds.

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How do you plan for big mountain races at high altitude with lots of climbing. It's UTMB + Leadville season so we're looking at those races and thinking through how best to approach them.

Jesse advises on nutrition for everything from 50k to 200+ milers in this episode.

Jesse Rich of Nutrition Rundown is a coach and nutritionist based in Salt Lake City. He also races ultras with a 1st place win at Wasatch 100, 2nd at Bear 100, and fresh off 11th at a CRAZY competitive Speedgoat.

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Woflie's World is now on his own channel on the Borderlands Podcast Network. Subscribe, rate, and review here: apple | spotify

Lots coming up. Tune in to hear it all in this audio version of the ICYMI version of the analog [new]letter.

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Kade Wilcox is the host of Full Price Athlete. He's 10 weeks away from running Moab 240. The final gauntlet is a huge training block difficult even for those who run full time. Kade is a business owner, committed husband and father, volunteer, and more.

Listen to what Kade is planning to do the final 10 weeks before Moab 240.

Subscribe to Full Price Athlete (spotify | apple) on the Borderlands Podcast Network.

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Josh + Brian welcome Sam Lohse to bring a new perspective to today's Bad Runners Take.

In this episode we answer two questions and take issue.

We also get a call on the Hyperlyte Hotline about running and shaving body hair.

This episode is for listeners who care about Borderlands. In this one, Josh takes a quick look at the past and present of Borderlands to lay a foundation for the future.

The future of trail running is bright and because of that Borderlands has potential to have a bright future.

In this episode of Wolfie's World, the host Brian shares the inspiring story of Nolan, a young man who transformed his life through running after experiencing personal tragedy.

The episode emphasizes the power of community, the journey of self-discovery, and the significance of honoring friendships through meaningful actions.

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Today's episode is produced by you, the listeners, and hosted by Josh + Brian. In this episode we take calls and read comments responding to what you care about.

Everyone is welcome to chime in here. We will never humiliate anyone. If you bring good faith takes to us, we will return with good faith answers.

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Ultrarunners pay full price for everything from gear to race entry fees to travel. But also, we pay the price with our family time and work time. We pay the price of perfection in our personal lives to make room for ultrarunning.

Kade Wilcox is joining the podcast creator family that will soon be a formal podcast network. He is preparing for Moab 240 and he's going to bring us along in the journey over the next couple of months.

In this episode, get to know Kade as a fellow Full Price Athlete.

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In this episode, Josh and Brian dive deep into the Hard Rock ultramarathon, discussing their experiences, reflections on the race, and the community surrounding it.

Hardrock 100 comes quickly after Western States perhaps hiding in a shadow it prefers. More than any other ultramarathon, Hardrock is about the runner. Other notable races have to navigate a lot of pomp and circumstance, but this one focuses on getting 145 runner around the loop to kiss the rock.

So what's so special about the Hardrock 100? Find out.

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Paris Fashion Week is a celebration of running and style. Innovative running brands show up from all over the world to showoff upcoming styles, run together, dine together, and generally engage the aggressively growing running indsutry.

Huge thanks to Aire Libre + Naked Sports Innovations for the support necessary to make this all happen.

We went to see a lot of brands. Here's the skinny on each one:

What will we remember about Western States 2025 5 years from now?

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How did friends of the podcast do? - Dan Green, Hans Troyer, Emily Hawgood, Jeff Browning, + Ryan Montgomery.

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Josh Rosenthal and Wolfie dive deep into the upcoming Western States 100.

They discuss the dynamics between established elite runners ('Made Men') and emerging talents ('Associates'), the impact of age on performance, and the significance of prize money in the sport.

The conversation also highlights the competitive landscape of the women's race and the potential for community engagement to shape the future of ultra running.

With insights on key runners like Killian Jornet, Hans, and Dan Green, this episode is a must-listen for ultra running enthusiasts.

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Matt Daniels needs no introduction in the trail world. He's a speedy elite runner with a great career. He's not running Western States 100 but he knows what its like and can bring us insight that few others could.

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Jeff Browning is a legend in ultrarunning even if he stopped running today. At the age of 53, he has an incredible resume of performance and influence in the sport ultra trail running.

But he isn't slowing down or stopping. He's running WSER 2025 planing to compete with the young guys with an eye on the over 50 years old age group record for WSER.

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Ryan Montgomery is an endurance athlete of layers - a high performer in every facet of life.

Yes, many know him from his triumphant entry into the WSER arena with a 7th place finish in 2023. But Ryan has run races like Badwater, Desert Solstice, + Tahoe 200. Ryan is an endurance runner's endurance runner.

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Sam Lohse joins Josh to talk about Paris Fashion Week and why its important for runners world wide. We understand that the problem here is squarely that this movement is happening at Paris Fashion Week.

We understand that hesitiation with accepting this movement if you're not in it, but hear us out. The only thing more beautiful than the aesthetic is a lot of the people participating in it.

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Chris Severson is an ER doc, husband, father of many and running Western States 2025.

In this interview we talk about how someone spinning all the plates prepares and thinks about Western States.

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Emily Hawgood has been dominating the world's hardest ultramarathons in recent years. She joins a stacked 2025 women's field and joins Josh and Brian for a 10 minute prerace interview.

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It's a big season for the Hans Troyer - a Golden Ticket giving him an entry to WSER and a world class doc called 'The Kid' by Hyperlyte Liquid Performance.

10 Minutes with Hans before the great 2025 WSER.

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Dan Green is the Silver Bullet and we sat down with him for 10 minutes to talk nicknames, marshal, pivoting from Black Canyons to Cocodona 250, and more in the lead up into the 2025 running of the Western States 100.

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Josh Rosenthal and Wolfie discuss the upcoming Western States race, featuring elite athlete interviews, insights into the competition, and a unique connection to Paris Fashion Week.

They explore the human interest aspects of running, the significance of community engagement through the Hyperlite Hotline, and the impact of documentaries like Hans Troyer's on the running culture.

The conversation emphasizes the importance of running beyond just events, celebrating the joy and expression of running itself. The running movement of Paris Fashion Week ironically celebrates this better than any other.

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Brian discusses the importance of balancing life and running, the new partnership with HyperLyte, and the upcoming athlete interviews for the Western States race.

He emphasizes the significance of feeding the dream and normalizing routines to achieve success in ultra running.

Brian also shares insights on creating a focused environment for training and the need to balance dreams with daily routines.

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Manchester's favorite running child, Inky Steve, joins Josh again to was poetic on the intersection of Trail Culture x Sneaker Culture. We also pick a movie to characterize the intersection of the day.

Air Max 1s are iconic and we believe Norda 001s have the same potential to be unchanged for decades to come.

Did Nike know they had a winner from day one? Did Norda?

Time will tell, but there are signs we look for to prove the 001 is already a cult classic along with Air Max 1 + Mallrats.

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Lydia Oldham ran across Portugal (5 days, 17 hours) and did a solo TSP from Las Angeles to Las Vegas. Runners like Lydia almost make it look easy so long as you don't pause and contemplate the wild complexity of planning and near-impossible reality of actually executing it physically.

Josh is starting to get the bug.

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Kade Wilcox perfectly represents the original audience of Borderlands.

Even the name Borderlands means the land between two places - your daily life and your amobitious ultrarunning goals.

Kade is spinning a ton of plates, paying full price for gear and jumping from his furthest run of 50 miles to 240 miles.

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Wolfie lays out the story lines for WSER 2025.

the Made men vs. the Associates. Made men are official, initiated Mafia members with full status, while associates work with the Mafia but lack initiation and privileges.

He's looking at the runners who are made vs. the ones trying to make it.

Kilian Jornet vs. Hans Troyer

Dan Jones vs. Seth Ruhling

Rod Farvard vs. Vincent Bouillard

Adam Peterman vs. Caleb Olson

David Roche vs. David Roche

The male and female course records at Western States are stout.

Will the current course records held by Jim Walmsley (14:09 in 2019) and Courtney Dauwalter (15:29 in 2023) respectively fall during the 2025 running of WSER?

As a fan, we just want a great race regardless of times, but both fields are poised to attack the CRs.

If only one CR falls, whose is most likely to go? Courtney's or Jim's?

Joe Corcione of Everyday Ultra debates Brian Peterson on today's episode.

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In this episode of the Bad Runners Take on the Borderlands Trail and Ultra Running Podcast, Josh + Brian discuss various topics including the evolution of Max Jolliffe's new nickname, reflections on recent dirtbag races, + more.

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In this episode of Wolfie's World, Brian discusses the recent controversies in the trail running community, emphasizing the importance of focusing on the collective strength of the 95.

He explores how to endure pain and suffering during ultra races, highlighting the significance of mental resilience and the concept of the future self.

Brian shares insights on training strategies that build mental toughness and encourages listeners to embrace challenges as part of their journey in ultra running.

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What do Will Goodge, Jim Walmsley, David Roche, Eli Hemming, + Hans Troyer Have in Common? The Naked Running Band.

The Naked Running Band has been a staple on a majority of podiums going on almost 10 years. Why do so many elite athletes wear the Naked Running Band? What so great about it?

Lindsay Dakota of Naked Sports Innovations joins Josh.

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Manchester's own Inky Steve joins Josh to talk about the intersection of trail running shoes and sneaker culture.

It's best couched in a quote from High Fidelity - "What really matters is what you like, not what you are like."

We wear the shoes that we like and most often we choose based on looks. We run in them, we like how they look and thus like how we look. And we run better, whatever that means.

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Walmsley is our of WSER

Aravaipa's actions were fair but were they just?

Discipline given where discipline is needed is a gift to everyone involved.

A brief look at some legendary ultramarathon disqualifications.

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In this conversation, Josh + Brian discuss their ambitious plans for Western States coverage, focusing on unique storytelling and the dynamics between established elite runners (made men) and emerging talents (associates).

They explore the challenges faced by runners balancing day jobs with their passion for ultra running, and the importance of highlighting underappreciated stories within the community.

The discussion also delves into the recent Aravaipa controversy, examining community reactions, the need for transparency, and the existing divide within the ultra running community.

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Wolfie's World - Weekend edition. Hayden Hawks is out of WSER. Why is he not racing? Does this impact UTMB? How does that change the race?

Brian explains.

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Hamish started Arc Projects and joins Josh to do a deep dive in Q&A form of what Race Directors do. I am certain this will have follow up episodes.

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In this episode of Wolfie's World, host Brian discusses the importance of consistency in ultra running, upcoming events, and the ongoing debate about prize money in the sport.

He emphasizes the significance of fun in running, encouraging the 95 to remember why they started and to keep the joy alive in their training and racing.

The conversation also touches on community, personal growth, and the need to uplift others within the ultra running community.

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Dream with us on this Bad Runners Take. We've said that WSER is vulnerable to being dethroned as the American 100 Miler Championship. So what does the premier 100 miler look like? What is necessary to make for it dominate the ultrarunning scene?

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Chris McDougall wrote Born to Run and today we get the story straight from him. We hear some updates on the characters from the book and hear some stories behind the stories.

We go beyond just Born to Run though - we talk my life-changing books - Born to Run, My Name is Asher Lev, Catcher in the Rye, and more.

This was a rich conversation that we had in March of 2024. It was such a special conversation that I didn't want it to live in...

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In this episode of Wolfie's World, Brian (wolffrunner) discusses the dynamic nature of the Borderlands community, upcoming debates, and the pressures faced by elite runners.

He delves into the concept of ego, consistency, and self-esteem in ultra running, emphasizing the importance of community engagement and the balance of ego within the sport.

Brian encourages listeners to embrace challenges and foster connections, ultimately aiming for personal growth and a stronger community.

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In this episode, Josh + Brian tend to some popular topics in their own unique way.

There's a lot to celebrate about Cocodona 250. Many podcasts have already named those things. In our post-race analysis we look at the coverage and think through how it could be better even with the existing budget.

Karl Meltzer joined us last week and dropped a lot of gold. Too much acutally. We needed this episode to follow up on some of his takes and drill down on them including his take...

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After watching Cocodona, all I want to do is find a race and sign up. These are the races that have been living rent free in my head for a while. One of them will work out and it will be glorious.

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In this episode, the Josh hosts Brian Peterson (Wolfie's World) + Karl Speedgoat Meltzer to dbate about the sponsorship of Western States, focusing on the merits of Nike versus Hoka as potential partners.

This is hypothetical, obviously. We use Nike to make a point - Hoka is missing a lot of opportunities that Nike would not miss.

Ultimately, this feels like less of a debate and more of a discussion around what we need in this sport.

Both sides present compelling arguments, with insights from...

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In this episode, the Josh hosts Brian Peterson (Wolfie's World) + Karl Speedgoat Meltzer to dbate about the sponsorship of Western States, focusing on the merits of Nike versus Hoka as potential partners.

This is hypothetical, obviously. We use Nike to make a point - Hoka is missing a lot of opportunities that Nike would not miss.

Ultimately, this feels like less of a debate and more of a discussion around what we need in this sport.

Both sides present compelling arguments, with insights from...

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Josh and Taylor Bodin (Believe in the Run, Dirt Division) discuss the evolution and innovations of three prominent big mountain brands in the trail running space: La Sportiva, Arc'teryx, and Rossignol.

They explore how these brands, known for their heritage in mountain sports, are adapting their technologies and designs to appeal to the North American market.

The conversation highlights specific shoe models, their performance characteristics, and the brands' strategies for breaking into the competitive trail running market.

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Cocodona 250 kicks off on May 5 and we're ready but we need a rivalry in this race.

Finn Melanson vs Max Jolliffe - why not?

Wolffrunner makes the case of why Finn vs. Max makes sense -two great 200 miler runners in their prime.

But it goes further than that. Listen for to find out.

Also, a look at Dan Green (Josh's pick for M1, overall 2), Courtney (overall 1), Michael McKnight (the winningest 200 miler to date) and more.

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Anytime I get to talk about the old DFL Before DNF ethos I think back to my beloved Zion 100 miler and everything I worked through to get the finish.

This is just a few clips from a much longer episode on Let's Run that Again.

Thanks to Michelle and Heidi for hosting me and allowing me use the clips on my podcast. Please check out Let's Run that Again.

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Wolfie talks about the 'Goggins effect'—the need to channel inner strength and confront personal insecurities during races.

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Josh joined Inky Steve in Manchester, England for run, hair cut, and podcast recording about the soul and spirit of UK running.

This conversation explores the journey of running, from the punk rock spirit that inspires runners to the community support that uplifts them.

The speakers share personal experiences with marathons, the evolution of running shoes, and the impact of COVID on their running journeys.

They discuss the importance of mental toughness, personal goals, and celebrating small victories along the way. In this conversation...