Black vs The Board of Education Podcast

Special Guests: Patrice Hill and Coco Bland

The conversation didn’t end last week—because the learning didn’t stop when systems failed.

In Part 3 of Black v. Board of Education (BVBOE): When the Community Becomes the Curriculum, we continue alongside Sacramento Area Youth Speaks (SAYS) to examine what happens after DEI programs are cut—and how communities step in to teach what institutions refuse to fund.

This episode digs into:

➡️ how Black students and families create their own spaces of learning and safety,

➡️ how lived experience becomes knowledge when formal curr...

The conversation didn’t end last week—because the harm didn’t end last week.

In Part 2 of Black v. Board of Education (BVBOE), we’re continuing our deep dive with Sacramento Area Youth Speaks (SAYS) as we unpack what happens after DEI programs get cut:

➡️ the erasure of Black student needs,

➡️ the widening of opportunity gaps,

➡️ the silence from decision-makers who claim “equity” until it’s time to fund it.

We’re breaking down who benefits when DEI disappears, why accountability keeps getting pushed aside, and how these cuts expose the difference b...

This week on Black v. Board of Education (BVBOE), we’re joined by Sacramento Area Youth Speaks (SAYS)—the unapologetic poets, organizers, and truth-tellers using their voices to challenge power and reclaim space.

We’re digging into the local DEI cuts happening right here in Sacramento County and their impact on Black students, even after the county’s own study highlighted the disparities and systemic barriers our students face every single day.

So why, after the data confirmed what our community has been saying for decades, are we still watching programs that center Black students get defu...

This week on Black v. Board of Education, we sit down with Mrs. Karen Dugas — educator, entrepreneur, and founder of Above the Limit, LLC and the Beyond the Bus Foundation. With over 20 years in education, Mrs. Dugas has helped students turn their academic potential into scholarship dollars, making college more affordable — and often, debt-free.

We talk about the power of financial literacy, what it really means to prepare students for post-secondary success, and how families can build generational wealth through informed decision-making. From tutoring to “Money Talks,” Mrs. Dugas is changing the narrative around what it means to be co...

From the classroom to educational leadership, Nichelle Henderson joins BVBOE to unpack the promise and the challenges of public education in California. In this deep discussion, she tackles issues like teacher burnout, equity, dual enrollment, and the role of leadership in crafting schools where all children can thrive.

In this episode We’re honored to host Carylee Carrington — a fierce voice in children’s literature, diversity advocacy, and storytelling. Through personal anecdotes, behind-the-scenes insights, and reflections on representation, Carylee invites us to read with intention, reflect on what stories we tell, and rise to create more inclusive narratives for young readers.

In this special Battle of the Sexes edition of Black v. The Board of Education, we’re asking the hard question — are we toxic, or just traumatized? 💭

Domestic Violence Awareness Month is the perfect time to unpack the blurred lines between pain and pattern, love and control, healing and harm. Too often, we label behavior without understanding the wounds underneath. In this episode, men and women go head-to-head — and heart-to-heart — about accountability, emotional safety, and what it really takes to break the cycle.

From generational trauma to pop culture’s definition of “ride or die,” nothing’s off-lim...

Join us as we sit down with Stephen Walker & guest to explore his powerful new play, “A.” This thought-provoking production dives deep into the struggles of addiction and mental health challenges, shedding light on the experiences many face but few discuss. Stephen shares the inspiration behind the play, the creative process, and the important conversations it sparks about resilience, healing, and understanding. Tune in for an honest, moving look at the stories that need to be told.

Join us for In Conversation with Area 4 School Board Member Delia Baldwin live on BVBOE

We’re back and better than ever! 

In our exciting new season, Harold D. Baldwin takes us on an inspiring journey “Up From Jackman,” sharing stories of resilience, leadership, and lived experience. 

Each episode dives into lessons learned, challenges overcome, and wisdom gained, giving listeners a front-row seat to conversations that uplift, empower, and spark meaningful change. Don’t miss this season of growth, insight, and inspiration!

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Dating violence is a quiet crisis impacting Black youth and families—one that’s often hidden behind stigma, mistrust, and a desire to “keep business in the house.” In this episode, the BVBOE cast engages in a raw and culturally grounded conversation about dating violence, how it shows up in our lives, the real stories that haunt us, and what healing could look like when we start telling the truth.

We discuss the tragic local cases and explore the broader challenges—from being dismissed or disbelieved to feeling stuck between silence and survival. This episode is...

Dating violence is a quiet crisis impacting Black youth and families—one that’s often hidden behind stigma, mistrust, and a desire to “keep business in the house.” In this episode, the BVBOE cast engages in a raw and culturally grounded conversation about dating violence, how it shows up in our lives, the real stories that haunt us, and what healing could look like when we start telling the truth.

We discuss the tragic local cases , and explore the broader challenges—from being dismissed or disbelieved, to feeling stuck between silence and survival. This episode is not just a war...

In this episode we are engaging with an Oakland-based artist, Milton Bowens, who shares Black history through the lens of his artwork. Why is it important and beneficial to teach Black history through art?

Grounded in over a decade of archival research, personal reflection, and sharp sociological analysis, this book chronicles a century of segregated schooling—revealing how early efforts to control Black minds through education laid the groundwork for the enduring systemic inequities we face today.

With Special Guest: Karida L. Brown

In this episode, we take a look at the realities many Black students face within their high schools and even college Black Student Unions. What happens when the spaces meant to affirm and uplift Black identity are ignored or undermined—sometimes even by Black administrators? We explore personal stories, systemic failures, and recent news of BSUs being defunded, sidelined, or silenced. Join us as we unpack what authentic support for Black students should look like and why protecting these spaces is more critical than ever.

recapping complaints and stories from around the educational landscape

In this episode, we delve into the heartbreaking incident in Texas where a student lost their life due to bullying. We explore the lasting impact of bullying on individuals, schools, and communities, discussing the warning signs, the role of bystanders, and the importance of intervention. Join us as we reflect on how we can create safer environments for students and break the cycle of violence and silence.

In Part 1, we discussed the disturbing “N****r Bucks” incident and its impact on Black students. Now, in Part 2, we’re following up on the school’s response—was real accountability taken, or just empty gestures?

But that wasn’t the only issue. A Living History Day lesson aimed at teaching about the pioneer era failed to consider the harm it could cause—sending students home with cloth dolls and ropes shaped like nooses, all without context. When history lessons lack critical thought and cultural awareness, they don’t educate—they traumatize.

So, what are schools getting wr...

The need for Black educators has never been greater, yet too few Black students are pursuing careers in teaching. Why is that? In this episode of Black v. Board of Education, we sit down with Dr. Karina Figueroa Ramirez, former teacher and now Educational Equity Program Coordinator/Advisor for Sac State’s College of Education.

We’ll discuss the programs and opportunities available for future educators, the systemic barriers that discourage Black students from entering the field, and what needs to change to build a pipeline of Black teachers who can transform classrooms for the next generation. If r...

Guest: Dr. Ijeoma Ononuju

In this special episode of Black v. Board of Education, we sit down with Dr. O to discuss his contributions to the powerful new book, Faith Made Flesh. Together, we explore the intersection of faith, education, and advocacy for Black children—unpacking the systemic barriers they face and the opportunities they need to thrive.

Our kids don’t need stumbling blocks; they need pathways to success. How do we shift the narrative, challenge outdated systems, and ensure that education works for Black students instead of against them? Dr. O brings his wisd...

Black students deserve educators who see them, hear them, and respect their lived experiences— not teachers who reduce Black history to offensive, misguided lessons that do more harm than good. After yet another classroom debacle involving a Black History Month assignment centered on the N-bucks, it’s clear that some educators still don’t know how to effectively engage with Black students.

In this episode, we’re calling it what it is—a failure in training, a failure in understanding, and a failure in care. But we’re not just here to critique; we’re here to educate. "Trai...

A middle school teacher handed out “N****r Bucks” in class—was this an attempt at a thought-provoking lesson on racism, or a blatant display of it? In this episode, we unpack the incident, its impact on Black students and families, and the broader implications for our education system. Is there ever a justifiable way to address racial issues in the classroom like this, or did this teacher go too far? Let’s talk about it.

Oakland Unified School District Director Mike Hutchinson joins us to break down the high-stakes battle over OUSD’s $95M budget adjustments. Frustrated with canceled meetings and a lack of transparency, he’s calling out the leadership that has locked the board into a predetermined plan without discussion. With a crucial vote on staffing cuts looming, the district faces a make-or-break moment—either pass the reductions and stabilize the budget or risk financial free fall. Tune in for a candid conversation about leadership, accountability, and the future of Oakland’s schools.

According to parents, Director Christina Gold at ABC Keith Haring School initially told parents that their 2-year-old son had a tantrum and fell on furniture. But just moments later, she sent a follow-up message changing the story—saying he didn’t have a tantrum, he tripped. So, which is it? Was this a simple mistake, pure negligence, or an outright cover-up?

Join us as we break down the inconsistencies, discuss the implications, and explore how schools handle (or mishandle) incidents involving young children. Don’t miss this important conversation!

#BlackvBoard #SchoolAccountability #TruthMatters

Black History Month may be a designated time for reflection, but we boldly declare that our history, our excellence, and our impact cannot be confined to 28 days—we are Black 365. This episode is a defiant reminder that our stories, our struggles, and our victories are ever-present, shaping the world in real time.

BVBOE responds to updates regarding the recent statement released from Sac City Unified about previous guest Dr. Vesher, with special guest: Attorney Mark T. Harris & Berry Accius

BVBOE explores the human stories behind California wildfires, highlighting those on the ground bringing hope and help to affected communities. Join us as we discuss recovery efforts, share resources, and inspire resilience in the face of devastation.

In our end of the year wrap up, "Year End, Holiday Joy," we look back at the highlights of the year, celebrate holiday traditions, and share some heartfelt stories of joy and giving. Join us as we sprinkle in some holiday cheer with lighthearted fun, a special thank-you to our listeners, and a sneak peek at what’s to come next season.

Whether you’re wrapping gifts, baking cookies, or just soaking up the holiday spirit, this episode is the perfect companion to end the year on a high note.

Tune in and celebrate the seas...

Who’s making the naughty or nice list? In this spirited episode, we’re diving into the “Naughty and Nice List” for local schools and districts. From standout successes to areas needing improvement, we’ll highlight what’s working and where there’s room to grow. Join us for a lively discussion on education, community impact, and how we can all work together to make every school shine.

The holiday season is often seen as a time of joy and celebration, but for many, it can be a period of loneliness, stress, and sadness. In this episode, we explore why the holidays aren’t always happy for everyone and discuss practical ways to lift spirits and find comfort during a challenging time of year. Join us as we unpack the emotional complexities of the season and offer tips for coping with the "holiday blues."

Join us as we spotlight the unique partnership between the Elk Grove Police Department and BYLP. This episode dives into how EGPD is working to build positive relationships with Black youth through meaningful collaboration and community engagement. Together, we explore how these efforts are fostering trust, promoting safety, and creating brighter opportunities for the next generation.

In this podcast, we explore LAUSD's decision to defund the Black Student Achievement Program. Join us for insights from educators, advocates, and students as we discuss the implications for the community and the urgent need for equity in education. Be part of the conversation!

BVBOE is joined by parents Ray & Simone Ridley discussing an incident where their 8 year old daughter was harmed on the campus of Bradshaw Christian School and how the administration went to great lengths to NOT hold the other student accountable.

Join us for a mindfulness segment on Family Systems & Risky Behaviors. Explore how family dynamics influence decision-making and learn strategies to promote healthier choices within your family.

In today's episode, we revisit the story of a white woman jailed for teaching Black people to read and explore how this pivotal moment in American history connects to the modern school system. Join us as we uncover the echoes of the past and examine how education and racial justice intersect today.

Join BVBOE as we break down the facts and explore what this means for campus culture and free speech. Stay informed, stay engaged!

In this episode of , BVBOE reflects on a dynamic summer, sharing highlights from their recent activities and updates on BYLP initiatives. Tune in for a comprehensive recap of key developments, successes, and what’s next on the agenda for enhancing community engagement and compliance.

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Optimizing Education - A Conversation with Armoni Easley CEO of Project Optimism

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Making The Invisible.. Visible with Shay Cruz

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Art, Culture, & Activism: Navigating Diverse Horizons with Jordan McGowan

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Back Like We Never Left 

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Free Game with Chet P. Hewitt

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