La Jolla Babylon: The Making Of A Suburban Punk

La Jolla Babylon: The Making Of A Suburban Punk

By: Aaron Hartman

Language: en

Categories: Society, Culture, Personal, Journals, Comedy, Interviews, Music

Your host, musician and writer Aaron Hartman, shares stories about his stormy youth growing up punk in a conservative beach town with his Millennial sister, actor, writer and comedian Katie Hartman. What emerges is a series of hilarious, poignant, and brutally honest weekly episodes that delve into the stark differences in their upbringings, despite being siblings.Aaron, a founding member and bass player of Northwest indie legends Old Time Relijun and electro dance-rock pioneers IQU, began writing his memoir in the back of a tour van. Years later, he reads these deeply personal stories to Katie, who, as a theater kid...

Episodes

The You-Know-What Episode
Dec 13, 2025

The You-Know-What Episode

 Chapters

64 WOLFIE

65 DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS

66 FILMMAKING

Explicit content. In other words, another one the in-laws might want to skip.

Adam makes a Porn for college credit.

In which Aaron miraculously gets out of reading in front of people. This is a recorded version of what our live show could have been.

When it’s time to move out of a small town, it’s really time to move!

“I’m not self aware enough to know what cartoon animal I...

Duration: 00:50:21
Everybody But Me Wang Chunged That Night
Nov 29, 2025

Everybody But Me Wang Chunged That Night

Chapters:

62 KURU

63 TWO QUICK THINGS

Aaron dishes about getting kicked out of the band he thought was going to make him a rock star. Altogether now: “It was the 90s.”

Afraid of being an “unreliable narrator” - Aaron asks Katie not to let him off the hook. As the stories get closer to modern day, it’s getting less cute to hear about Adam and his bad choices. As Katie says, “If you’re looking for someone to dress you down, I think you shou...

Duration: 00:50:00
Hold On Tightly, Let Go Lightly
Nov 15, 2025

The end of Dan Jones. Friend break-ups are the hardest.

Katie and Aaron talk ADHD.

**Update! We chose not to air the episode Aaron describes at the end of this one. These stories can sometimes cut a little close to the bone, and we felt like what would have been episode 4 might be pushing too far into other peoples’ lives. It was a good one but we decided to err on the side of privacy. Email us a lajollababylon@gmail.com if you want to know more (we’ll tell you everything privately).

Also...

Duration: 00:38:26
Post-Halloween Special!- Everyone has a Ghost Story
Nov 01, 2025

Adam meets someone special in the bathroom.

In this bonus episode, Aaron tells a true story in which he sees a ghost and then teases Katie for believing in ghosts. Big brother/ little sister dynamic!

Katie and Aaron talk about Halloween as the punk Christmas, get woo-woo, talk wearing costumes on stage, ghosts and all that jazz (spoiler: Aaron is a party pooper).

 Video of Old Time Relijun playing insane Halloween party and Aaron’s ghost costume:

https://youtu.be/EG3Okwy3Mj4?si=AK_3sPfA7vX37dju&t=129pumpkin photo

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Duration: 00:29:58
The Wrong Tools
Oct 18, 2025

The Wrong Tools

Aaron and Katie reunite on the mics and bring you the first episode of a brand-spankin new season - just in time to save the world! Sorry it took so long. Episode 1 brings us into Dan Jones’ family of origin and Adam tries to keep up. Adam returns to his childhood home and meets the friendly cult that has moved in. Adam is growing up this season, but only sort of. As Katie says, “Adult, but still not very mature.”

Chapters:

57 OF CACTUSES

58 OF RENOVATIONS

59 TOOLS

...

Duration: 00:41:48
Season 3 announcement!
Oct 12, 2025

La Jolla Babylon is excited to announce our triumphant return! Season three, the Undoing of a Suburban Punk begins on Saturday, October 18. This season: Dan Jones’ dad gets out of prison, Adam sees a ghost, makes a porn for college credit, almost gets famous, and gets stranded deep in the Bible Belt. Episodes will be slightly more intermittent than in the past, so just keep us in your feed and we’ll pop up every couple weeks.

Katie and I can not wait to get back into it with you!

Music: La Jolla Babylon Theme by A...

Duration: 00:01:05
Going to Chicago with Grandma Blues
Jun 07, 2025

Going to Chicago with Grandma Blues

This is one of a few short episodes that will be sprinkled throughout the coming weeks as we finish season 3.

“The food was terrible – and such small portions!”

 

Please subscribe so you don’t miss an episode!

And don’t forget to rate this show to help others find it!

 

Music: La Jolla Babylon Theme by Aaron Hartman

Vocal: Alicia Jo Rabins @ohaliciajo | aliciajo.com

Drums: Sara Lund @lundun_calling | saralundrum.com

 

Additional...

Duration: 00:26:33
Terry and the Cat
May 31, 2025

La Jolla Babylon: Shenanigans Edition, Terry and the Cat

 

Terry and the Cat

 

**A warning that there is the slightest mention of what could be considered cruelty to animals. If you are especially sensitive to this sort of thing, I suggest reading the transcript before listening to the episode.**

This is the first of a few short episodes that will be sprinkled throughout the coming weeks as we finish season 3.

In which Adam and Dan Jones visit Terry at the house he’s renting. Visitors are not allo...

Duration: 00:25:01
The Ascent of a Suburban Punk
Apr 12, 2025


The Ascent of a  Suburban Punk


 

Keep us in your feed! Season 3 will sneak up on you before you know it.

In this last episode of what has been an emotional and illuminating season, we bring on Arrington DeDionyso, the multi-lingual, muti-instrumental musician and Aaron’s longtime collaborator in Old Time Relijun.


Chapter titles:


54 The Delightful Calvary

55 Addington

56 Clarity of Purpose



Music: La Jolla Babylon Them...

Duration: 00:48:56
The Education of a Suburban Punk
Apr 05, 2025

The Education of a Suburban Punk


Chapter titles:

Adam stops at the army on the way to college and drives away with some clarity. Then the next thing in life happens.

In the discussion, Katie and Aaron talk about elephant skin boots and why they are bad

We enter what is conceptually the second half of this “lightly fictionalized” memoir. Really the last third. Or maybe more like 4/7th? You get the point.

**Update! Katie’s dog, Bongo, is fine! The biopsy turned out not to...

Duration: 00:49:28
A Suburban Punk Leaves Home
Mar 29, 2025

A Suburban Punk Leaves Home


Adam is given an ultimatum and he gets out of town for a while.

Aaron talks about his favorite way of sneezing. Katie and Aaron say the word “cancerous” too many times.

Our grandfather’s real name was Harry Hartman. He really did coin the phrase “going, going, gone!”. Here’s a link to one of the websites talking about it. https://mediaheritage.com/harry-hartman-1931-1933/


Chapter title:

48 Not Quite

49 But First

50 Two Adams


Duration: 00:54:53

The Electrification of a Suburban Punk
Mar 22, 2025

The Electrification of a Suburban Punk


This episode contains details of teenagers getting intimate. Please be advised. Especially if you’re related to Aaron.

Adam’s first real girlfriend. Laugh, cry, wonder why.

The person described in this episode is a cocktail of several people. Some situations may have been changed for the sake of privacy and narrative.


Chapter title:

47 Hairier


Music: La Jolla Babylon Theme by Aaron Hartman

Vocal: Alicia Jo Rabins @ohaliciajo | aliciajo.com

Duration: 00:42:54
The Revenge of a Suburban Punk
Mar 15, 2025

The Revenge of a Suburban Punk



Another gross episode. No one reads the show notes - but consider this a warning.

The book Aaron was trying to remember is called Make ‘Em Pay! Ultimate Revenge Techniques from the Master Trickster by George Hayduke. Correction: “Thou shalt by thy time before activating a revenge plot” is commandment #5, not #1. Also note: no one is recommending this book.


Chapter titles:


45 Sandwiched

 

46 Alaska calling

 

Music: La Jolla...

Duration: 00:48:15
The Demystification of a Suburban Punk
Mar 08, 2025


The Demystification of a Suburban Punk



Chapters:

43 Angel Tree


44 City, Mountains, Desert, Ocean



An epic camping trip. Shit goes down.

The combination of whatever type A and ADHD that runs in our family was off-putting to my punk school friends.

Adam was a planner but only in the sense that he could foresee the need for food and shelter.



Music: La Jo...

Duration: 01:04:00
A Suitably Impressed Suburban Punk
Mar 01, 2025


A Suitably Impressed Suburban Punk THIS IS EP 4

 

Within the realm of this episode, Adam and Dan Jones take the law into their own hands. Adam goes to prom and meets a girl. Katie and Aaron talk about Mötley Crüe for some fucking reason.

Our hosts also develop an idea for a new underwear for pubescent boys called “Tuckies”. Listen on to get their dumb joke!


Chapter titles:


37 Invisible Knights of Terror


38 Jr Prom Duration: 01:08:32

The Fortification of a Suburban Punk
Feb 22, 2025

The Fortification of a Suburban Punk


Hung over Katie barely makes it through this one, but she’s still charming. Aaron finally gets to “millennial” Katie and it is so satisfying.

We meet an experimental hang glider pilot who gives Adam life lessons, and we learn to be wary of phone calls from radio stations. We also find our why Tar is not going to be a guest on the podcast.


40 Darryl John and the Dark One


41 What $40 Can Buy You


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Duration: 00:46:57
The Revelation of a Suburban Punk
Feb 15, 2025

The Revelation of a Suburban Punk


34 Breaking Away


35 Second Band           


36 The Point


Hey! You came back! In the second episode of Season 2, Dan Jones gets a girlfriend who might not be “the one”; Adam finds his groove with a new band; and a girl stirs things up at a cemetery.


Music: La Jolla Babylon Theme by Aaron Hartman

Vocal: Alicia Jo Rabins @ohaliciajo | aliciajo.com

Drums: Sara Lund @lundun_calling | saralundrum.com...

Duration: 01:02:37
The Mortification of a Suburban Punk
Feb 08, 2025

The Mortification of a Suburban Punk


…And we’re back! We are so excited to hang out with you for another season.

In this first episode of Season 2, we break the seal on guests! The woman who inspired the character “Lulu” joins Aaron and Katie for a revelatory conversation.

In which Aaron confronts his biggest fear: making his friends mad at him.

Aaron confesses his feelings for his friend from back when he was Adam’s age. The very idea of revealing an ancient crush brings shivers to the hosts...

Duration: 01:06:28
Betwixt Season Episode- The Music of La Jolla Babylon
Dec 28, 2024

This week we’re taking a break from our usual narration and charming sibling banter while we finish up season two.

Today’s mini episode is going to be a little different. We’ve put together a playlist of all the music we’ve heard so far on La Jolla Babylon.

Here is a link to almost all the music: Marine Layer

I wrote the bulk of these chapters in cafes and was constantly distracted by whatever the baristas were playing. And since to me, there’s no such thing as background music, I made my...

Duration: 01:13:47
Worse Brains
Dec 21, 2024

Worse Brains


Chapters:

29 Worse Brains

30 Second Job


In this final episode of Season 1, Dan and Adam have a run-in with a cop in Tijuana.

Adam gets the perfect job for someone like him.

Yes, Katie asks Aaron if Bad Brains is a band. It’s cool, baby. I’m sure she knows lots of stuff you don’t know anything about!

Stay tuned for season 2! Please subscribe to La Jolla Babylon so you don’t miss an episode!


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Duration: 00:47:36
Generation: Stand By Me
Dec 14, 2024

Generation: Stand By Me


Chapter titles:

27 The John Muir Alternative School for Humanistic Studies

28 Introduction to Female Hygiene


In which Adam turns 17 and his party is disgusting. Aaron does not over-sell the story. Katie finally finds her breaking point. And the hashtag #crustytampontiktokchallenge is born.


Music: “Be Your Person” (unreleased)


Music: La Jolla Babylon Theme by Aaron Hartman

Vocal: Alicia Jo Rabins @ohaliciajo | aliciajo.com

Drums: Sara Lund @lundun_calling | saralundrum.com<...

Duration: 00:48:24
La Jolla Babylon
Dec 07, 2024

La Jolla Babylon


Chapter:

26 La Jolla Babylon


In this episode, Adam and Dan Jones want to be able to leave any party and have more fun. Roaming the beach at night yields unexpected gifts. In what turns out to be what Katie calls a “classic Southern California gen-X stand-by-me beach situation”.

Katie also coins the phrase “pity bra”.


Music: La Jolla Babylon Theme by Aaron Hartman

Vocal: Alicia Jo Rabins @ohaliciajo | aliciajo.com

Drums: Sara Lund @lundun_c...

Duration: 00:40:52
Guitar face was the least of it
Nov 30, 2024

“Guitar face was the least of it”


Chapter titles:

24 REQUIEM

25 Sweet spot



In this episode: Adam’s first band sucks but something clicks. The boys do some inexcusable things while Adam’s blind grandmother is in the room.

Katie and Aaron talk about their older cousin’s funeral at sea.


Music: La Jolla Babylon Theme by Aaron Hartman

Vocal: Alicia Jo Rabins @ohaliciajo | aliciajo.com

Drums: Sara Lund @lundun_calling | saralundrum.com

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Duration: 00:43:59
What if We Disappeared?
Nov 23, 2024

 “What if We Disappeared?”


Chapter titles:

20 Trial 2

21 Fear and Loathing

22 Dan Jones

23 To the Beach!


Adam gets busted for weed and has a brilliant way of talking his way out of it: being a dick to his parents. The threat of rehab looms.

We finally meet the kid who Adam dedicates his adolescence to. A polite punk who loves his grandmother.

“The scarier you look, the nicer you have to be.”



Music...

Duration: 00:50:46
Let’s meet my stepfather, shall we?
Nov 16, 2024

Let’s meet my stepfather, shall we?

Chapter titles

17 Gene

18 Gradual

19 Confidential

It’s stepfather time! Adam’s mom gets swept off her feet. We get an origin story and a good ole 1980s-era scare-the-parents institution tries to convince Adam’s parents that he’s on the wrong path. He probably was. Katie does her best to get Aaron to admit that he’s petty.

Three chapters of fun!

#latchkeykid, #genx, #generationx #millennialwisdom, #empathy, #humor, #divorce, #truestories, #siblings, #half-siblings, #artschool, #seminar, #schoolbus, #rehab, #stepdad, #ihatemystep, #quacks, #198...

Duration: 00:41:53
Fuzzy Strawberries and Watermelon Men
Nov 09, 2024


Fuzzy Strawberries and Watermelon Men

Chapters:

14 Fuzzy Strawberries 15 Transfer

16 Watermelon Men

Quick note: Aaron’s daughter has given permission to talk about the fact that she had lice. Her reasoning was, “No one’s going to listen to this, so it doesn’t really matter.” Point taken.

It’s an #ifyouknowyouknow kind of episode. Adam talks his way into advanced band and learns that some people do actually hear the bass - not in a good way. Some mafia- infused family lore and Terry leaves something in Adam’s gr...

Duration: 00:39:52
Dance Class Bully
Nov 02, 2024

Dance class bully

Chapters titles:

10 Terry

11 Influence 12 Trial

13 Lila

Over the course of four chapters, we meet Adam’s high school bully, a new kid at school influences Adam in unexpected ways and Adam meets a girl and is not exactly a smooth talker.

In the discussion afterward, Aaron brags to Katie about his tap dancing and aikido skills.

#danceclassbully

#SCPASD #SDSCPA #latchkeykid, #genx, #generationx #millennialwisdom, #empathy, #humor, #divorce, #truestories, #siblings, #half-siblings, #artschool, #seminar, #schoolbus, #narcs

Links:

Follow Katie Ha...

Duration: 00:41:29
Here We Go!
Oct 26, 2024

Here We Go!

Chapter titles:

5 Socratic, or otherwise

6 The Prophet

7 Deep wells

8 The School of creative and Performing Arts

9 Sleep over

Here we go. Katie and Aaron talk about how fucked up Aaron’s childhood was. Aaron starts to understand that his funny stories are maybe the tiniest bit traumatic. Katie is disappointed by her fictionalized name and Aaron talks himself into a corner. It gets real with an older hanger-on.

Five Chapters herein.

#SCPASD #SDSCPA #latchkeykid, #genx, #generationx #millennialwisdom, #empathy, #hu...

Duration: 00:49:31
I'm In Charge Now
Oct 18, 2024

I’m in charge now.


Chapter titles:

1 Extra sensory 

2 Undelivered 

3 Me time

4 First cups


Welcome to the first episode of La Jolla Babylon Season One - The Making Of A Suburban Punk! 

A weekly podcast that's gonna go something like this: Katie and Aaron talk for a few minutes. Katie (and the audience) listen to a few chapters of Aaron’s book about his unsupervised, Gen X youth. Then they discuss. Katie is emotional but mostly empathetic and funny. 

Duration: 00:36:48