Wit + Grit
By: PJ Ellis and Andy Dawson
Language: en
Categories: Education, Society, Culture, Relationships, Business
We’re PJ Ellis and Andy Dawson - two dads, two mates, who’ve spent our lives working across business, law, education, charity, and media. Between us, we've made a lot of mistakes, asked a lot of questions, and raised kids who are about to walk into a world of work that’s nothing like the one we grew up in. That’s why we started Wit + Grit - a space for real, human conversations about what it takes to thrive in a world full of AI, constant pressure, and curated perfection. This podcast is about the skills you can’t Google...
Episodes
Siblings in Sync. Peg and Will: Poker and Mindfulness
Dec 15, 2025Summary
In this episode, siblings Peggy and Will Crawford discuss their unique career paths and shared experiences.
Peggy, a data analyst and semi-pro poker player, shares insights into the poker world and her journey in content creation.
Will, founder of Quiet Note, talks about integrating mindfulness and music to improve mental wellbeing.
They explore the challenges and rewards of their respective fields, emphasising resilience, passion, and the importance of mental health.
The conversation also touches on their supportive sibling relationship and future aspirations.
Let's get into it.<...
Duration: 00:00:23From 93p an Hour to 26 McDonald’s and a UK-First Kids Village - Doug Wright MBE DL
Dec 09, 2025In this episode of Wit + Grit, we are joined by Doug Wright MBE DL - a man whose life reads like a masterclass in resilience and service.
Doug shares how he went from failing his exams and disappointing his parents to finding purpose on 93p an hour at McDonald’s, becoming the youngest restaurant manager, and then having his world turned upside down after a devastating car accident that left him temporarily paralysed from the neck down.
He talks candidly about the charities that supported his family during that time, how that shaped his lifelong co...
Duration: 00:47:32Small Habits, Big Confidence: Becca Horley on Becoming the Person You Want to Be
Dec 01, 2025Summary
In this uplifting and deeply honest conversation, Becca Horley shares the journey behind her award-winning legal career and the personal transformation that shaped it. From feeling “stuck” and disconnected to redefining her identity through fitness, fashion, boundaries and self-respect, Becca opens up about what it really takes to build a happier, more confident life.
She talks vision boards, daily habits, confidence vs. comparison, being first-gen in law, resilience through loneliness, and how young talent can thrive in today’s workplace. This episode is packed with energy, vulnerability, and practical mindset shifts you can use immedi...
Duration: 00:44:31Pursuing Passions and Fresh Perspectives from Young Entrepreneurs: Abbi Evans & Rhiannon Fry
Nov 24, 2025In this episode, two young entrepreneurs, Rhiannon Fry and Abbi Evans, share their journeys of building businesses in their teens.
They discuss the challenges and triumphs of entrepreneurship, the importance of resilience, and the role of education in preparing for real-world experiences.
The conversation also touches on the influence of family and mentors, the significance of social media in modern business, and the value of taking risks and pursuing passions.
Bring it on.
Keywords
entrepreneurship, resilience, social media, education, young founders, business challenges, mentorship, risk-taking, personal growth, modern business<...
Duration: 00:49:41Dig One Hole, Dig It Deep: The Man Commercial Protection Story
Nov 18, 2025Summary
In this episode, Iain McCallister, CEO of Man Commercial Protection, shares his journey of building a successful security business.
He emphasises the importance of focusing on one thing and doing it well, as encapsulated in his mantra, 'Dig one hole, dig it deep.'
Iain discusses the challenges and triumphs of leading a company through acquisitions, maintaining a strong company culture, and the role of technology in the security industry.
Takeaways
Catch Up Session: Lessons from Episodes 7 - 11
Nov 11, 2025**Summary**
In this episode, PJ and Andy reflect on episodes 7 through 11, discussing themes of resilience, opportunity, and self-belief.
They highlight conversations with guests Paul Faulkner, Latoyah Thompson, Sam Dell, Richard Parker, Sharon Bell and Katey Martin, exploring topics such as the importance of storytelling, networking, and embracing change.
The episode also touches on the power of mentorship, the role of music in education, and the significance of empathy and unity in personal and professional growth.
Keywords
resilience, opportunity, self-belief, storytelling, networking, mentorship, music education, empathy, unity<...
Duration: 00:46:09Beyond the Battlefield: Ben Williams on Life and Leadership
Nov 03, 2025In this episode, Ben Williams shares his journey from a Royal Marines commando to a resilience coach, discussing the importance of resilience, leadership, and personal growth.
He reflects on his experiences in the military, his transition to civilian life, and his work with the England football team.
Ben emphasises the value of humour and grit in overcoming adversity and finding purpose.
Takeaways
The Best of Our First Five Guests: Key Takeaways with Andy and PJ
Oct 27, 2025In this episode, we reflect on the insights and key themes from our first five guests.
We discuss the importance of creating opportunities, resilience, and the evolving role of AI in our lives.
The conversation highlights the value of life skills, the impact of mentorship, and the significance of time over advice.
Join us as we jump into these topics and share personal anecdotes that resonate with the lessons learned from our guests.
A massive shout out to: Tracy Westall OBE, Tom Clarke-Forrest, Abbie Vlahakis, Ad Davies and Andy Wilkinson.
<... Duration: 00:29:54The Power of Making People Feel Seen. A Conversation with Jas Rohel
Oct 20, 2025We are joined by Jas Rohel, the CEO and founder of Education Awards, who shares her journey from working in education to establishing an awards program that recognises outstanding contributions in the field.
The discussion covers the importance of celebrating educators, the need for curriculum reform, the impact of technology on learning, and personal growth through adversity.
Jas emphasises the significance of community support and mental health awareness, encouraging listeners to be kind to themselves and others.
She's ace.
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Takeaways
The Education Awards were created to recognise... Duration: 00:40:57Navigating the Job Market: Insights from Emma Neale and Parth Patel.
Oct 13, 2025Dive into a conversation with Parth, a third-year student at Aston University, and Emma Neale, a Senior Teaching Fellow at the same Uni.
Discover Parth's journey in seeking a placement in accounting and finance, and hear Emma's insights on bridging the gap between education and industry.
The discussion touches on the importance of resilience, networking, and embracing one's authentic self in the professional world.
Valuable advice and inspiring stories that highlight the challenges and opportunities facing today's young professionals. That's what it's all about, right?
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Takeaways
Parth... Duration: 00:49:51Negotiating Life: Insights from a Counterterrorism Expert, Katey Martin
Oct 07, 2025Join us for an inspiring conversation with Katey Martin, a seasoned counterterrorism negotiator and advocate for female empowerment.
In this episode, Katey shares her journey from policing to founding the DARE team, offering insights into the art of negotiation, the importance of empathy, and the power of unity.
Discover how her experiences have shaped her approach to leadership and mentorship, and learn valuable lessons on communication and resilience.
Whether you're interested in law enforcement, personal growth, or leadership, this episode is packed with wisdom and inspiration.
Tune in to explore the...
Duration: 00:51:06The Power of Music: Sharon Bell on Education and Inclusivity
Sep 29, 2025In this episode of Wit and Grit, Sharon Bell, Chief Executive of Services for Education, shares her journey from an accountant to leading a charity focused on music education in Birmingham.
She discusses the challenges and innovations during the COVID-19 pandemic, the importance of music in education, and the impact of providing accessible music opportunities for children.
Takeaways
Unlocking Opportunities: Richard Parker's Vision for the West Midlands
Sep 22, 2025Join us as we sit down with Richard Parker, the Mayor of the West Midlands, to explore his inspiring journey from a working-class upbringing to a leadership role in regional politics.
In this episode, Richard shares his vision for growth and opportunity in the West Midlands, emphasising the importance of creating jobs and nurturing young talent.
Discover how storytelling and collaboration are key to unlocking the region's potential and hear firsthand about the exciting projects and initiatives underway.
Whether you're interested in politics, regional development, or personal growth, this conversation offers valuable insights...
Duration: 00:34:12Belief Meets Action: Inspiring Legal Journeys with Latoyah Thompson and Sam Dell
Sep 14, 2025Join us as we delve into the inspiring journeys of Latoyah Thompson and Sam Dell.
From humble beginnings in Birmingham to thriving careers in law, Latoyah and Sam share their unique paths, the challenges they overcame, and the pivotal moments that shaped their professional lives.
Discover how belief, resilience, and mentorship played crucial roles in their success, and gain insights into the evolving landscape of the legal industry.
Whether you're an aspiring lawyer or simply seeking motivation, this episode offers valuable lessons on perseverance and the power of community.
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Duration: 00:39:58If You’re Good Enough, You’re Old Enough - Resilience, Confidence and Opportunity with Paul Faulkner.
Aug 28, 2025In this episode, we dive into the world of business and education with Paul Faulkner, co-founder of Element 45.
We explore the evolving landscape of business in 2025, the innovative approach of Alpha Schools in the U.S., and the importance of resilience and adaptability in today's workforce.
Paul shares insights from his eclectic career, emphasising the value of experience, mentorship, and the need for confidence in both personal and professional realms.
Join us as we discuss the future of Birmingham, the impact of AI, and the power of genuine curiosity.
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Duration: 00:39:08Catch-up: Andy and PJ on Bookshops, Balance, and Being Real.
Aug 21, 2025Join us as we dive into a conversation about the realities of success, the importance of authenticity, and the power of storytelling. From personal anecdotes about career choices to reflections on parenting in a digital age, this episode offers insights into finding balance in life and work.
Key Topics:
Andy's love for bookshops and his guilty pleasure of reading investment magazines.
The journey of Gymshark's founder, Ben Francis, and the myth of overnight success.
The impact of social media on self-perception and the importance of being genuine.
Reflections on...
Duration: 00:42:53The Creative Equation: Andy Wilkinson on Technology and Imagination
Aug 14, 2025In this episode we discuss the evolution of communication and marketing over the past 25 years, highlighting the importance of personal connections in business, the skills gap in the workforce, and the impact of AI and technology on the industry.
Andy shares insights from his experience as the founder of OWB Creative Comms and emphasises the need for authenticity in a rapidly changing digital landscape.
Enjoy
Takeaways
The transition from a small team to a larger organisation brings new opportunities.Personal connections in business are more important than ever.There is a growing... Duration: 00:37:01Opening Doors: Ad Davies' Journey from Coaching to Leadership
Aug 06, 2025In this episode, we delve into the inspiring journey of Ad Davies, a cultural architect who transitioned from sports coaching to business leadership. Ad shares his experiences from the football field to the boardroom, highlighting the power of storytelling and the importance of opportunity in shaping company identity.
Tune in to hear how Ad's unique journey can inspire and guide future leaders in any field.
Key Highlights:
Ad's early aspirations in sports and his transition to business leadership. The role of storytelling in building company culture and identity. Insights on leadership from Ad's...
Duration: 00:40:13Mentorship and Innovation: Bridging Generations with Abbie Vlahakis
Jul 30, 2025Abbie Vlahakis, CEO of Millennium Point and Deputy Lieutenant, discusses her journey from the private sector to the charity sector, emphasising the importance of community engagement and mentorship for young people.
She highlights the mission of Millennium Point in inspiring education and careers in STEM fields, addressing the skills gap and youth unemployment in Birmingham.
Abbie advocates for collective efforts among businesses, local authorities, and educational institutions to create opportunities for young people and equip them with the necessary skills for the future workforce.
Abbie Vlahakis is the CEO of Millennium Point and a... Duration: 00:37:12Empowering Youth: Tom Clarke-Forrest on Sport, Skills, and Social Change
Jul 22, 2025In this engaging conversation, Tom Clarke-Forrest, founder and CEO of Sport 4 Life UK, shares insights into the challenges and opportunities facing young people today.
He discusses the importance of mentorship, the essential life skills needed for success, and the impact of sports on personal development.
The conversation also touches on the role of AI in shaping the future workforce and the need for curiosity and adaptability in an ever-changing world.
Sport 4 Life UK helps over 4000 young people each year.72% of participants improve their key life skills.82% of participants report improved mental health.The organisation... Duration: 00:40:11Tech, Ethics, and Misogyny: Tracy Westall OBE on Building Better Futures
Jul 13, 2025In this engaging conversation, Tracy Westall OBE shares her journey from a successful corporate career to a portfolio career, emphasising the importance of ethics, technology, and the ongoing challenges of misogyny and sexism in the workplace.
The discussion highlights generational differences in attitudes towards these issues, the role of AI in shaping future behaviours, and the necessity of teaching values and ethics to the next generation. Tracy's insights provide a roadmap for parents and leaders to foster a more inclusive and respectful environment for all.
Takeaways
Tracy Westall emphasises the importance of liking...
Duration: 00:40:22A quick welcome to Wit + Grit.
Jun 26, 2025In this conversation, Andy Dawson and PJ Ellis explore the themes of wit and grit, focusing on the challenges and opportunities facing future generations in a rapidly changing world.
They discuss the impact of technology, particularly AI, on work and interpersonal relationships, emphasising the importance of emotional intelligence and honest conversations in navigating these changes. The dialogue highlights concerns for children growing up in a digital age and the need for resilience and human connection in an increasingly automated environment.
Takeaways
Concerns for future generations revolve around emotional intelligence.Technology is changing the way... Duration: 00:06:30