The Rich Roll Podcast

Malala Yousafzai is the youngest Nobel Peace Prize laureate, education activist, and survivor of a Taliban assassination attempt at age fifteen.

This conversation explores the gulf between icon and identity—what happens when you're trying to figure out who you are while everybody has already decided for you. We discuss PTSD that surfaced years later, therapy she resisted, reconciling heritage with freedom, the crisis facing Afghan girls under gender apartheid, and why meaningful activism extends beyond social media.

Through it all, she's redefining what courage actually looks like.

Malala is vulnerable, honest, and pr...

Andy Galpin is a PhD in exercise bioenergetics, professor at Parker University, and elite performance coach to professional and Olympic athletes.

This conversation explores his framework of nine fitness adaptations and why many people plateau in what could be called the "gray zone"—working hard enough to feel exhausted but not specifically enough to trigger adaptation. We discuss how movement quality often matters more than intensity, the difference between functional overreaching and overtraining, and what's actually limiting your progress.

Also, Andy coaches me through rebuilding movement patterns after spinal fusion surgery.

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Nick Thompson is CEO of The Atlantic, an elite marathoner, and author of the memoir The Running Ground.

This conversation explores how running reveals our deepest inherited patterns. We discuss Nick's journey from getting fired from CBS in under an hour to running The Atlantic, reconciling with his brilliant father's tragic collapse, setting age-group records at 50, and why AI threatens the very nature of reality.

We also discuss why the simple act of running becomes a portal for understanding your deepest patterns.

Nick offers profound lessons in post-traumatic growth. And he shares them...

Joanne Molinaro, aka The Korean Vegan, is a James Beard Award-winning cookbook author who has redefined food storytelling through viral videos.

This conversation explores her journey from the facile safety of corporate law to creative uncertainty, using food to reconcile generational trauma, and navigating the liminal space between Korean tradition and personal evolution.

We also discuss her refugee parents' silence, the wellness world's descent into conspiratorial thinking, and how the Korean concept of "sun mat" infuses everything she creates.

Joanne brings remarkable vulnerability to this episode. Enjoy!

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Roll On is here! Adam Skolnick and I catch up after a month of nonstop travel. Tokyo for the Track & Field World Championships, New York, and DC multiple times.

Big news: Adam announces his debut novel American Tiger—20 years in the making, with the audiobook recorded right here in our studio.

Also on tap: my family crisis that required an Ocean's 11-style heist, accidentally crashing the wrong high school reunion, Alex Honnold scaling skyscrapers live on Netflix, the Norwegians sweeping Ironman Nice, and Sean Penn's performance in “One Battle Afte...

Emily Harrington is a professional climber who became the first woman to free climb El Capitan's Golden Gate route in under 24 hours, captured in the documentary Girl Climber.

This conversation explores her 50-foot fall that nearly ended everything, the eating disorder that almost destroyed her career, and how crying while climbing became her strength. We discuss her innovative double-shoe technique, losing mentor Hilary Nelson while pregnant, and why she calls Mount Everest "Steve."

Emily brings radical vulnerability to a sport dominated by the boys' club, proving that showing your breaking points doesn't make you weak...

Dr. John Price is a depth psychotherapist and co-founder of The Center for Healing Arts & Sciences.

This conversation explores why men have 50% fewer friends than twenty years ago, the crisis of modern masculinity, shadow work, and John's concept of "sacred refusal" —honoring the adaptations that once saved us but now destroy us. We discuss why suffering is initiation not pathology, the absence of rites of passage, and how the things we find most uncomfortable often reveal our deepest truths.

John turns the therapeutic lens on me throughout—a benign adversary calling out my own resistance to v...

This Women's Health and Hormones Compilation explores how estrogen regulates brain function, why 86% of mothers lose core strength with no recovery protocol, and the critical timing window for hormone therapy.

Featured experts include Dr. Lisa Mosconi (ep. 819), Dr. Robin Berzin (ep. 873), Dr. Neal Barnard (ep. 492), Dr. Gemma Newman (ep. 678), and Dr. Kyle Gillett (ep. 720).

We discuss fat cells as hormone producers, the 1993 federal mandate for women's inclusion in research, and the two transformations unique to women—childbirth and menopause. Along the way, we uncover how dietary changes prevented one woman's hysterectomy and reversed another's endometriosis.

Dara Torres is a 5-time Olympian, 12-time Olympic medalist, and the oldest swimmer to ever win an Olympic medal at age 41.

We explore how she broke American records two years after giving birth, trained only five days a week while beating teenagers, and missed her sixth Olympics by nine-hundredths of a second. We discuss her revolutionary recovery-focused training, battles with bulimia, and why she still can't turn off the competitive switch at 58.

Most surprising? The swimming world's indifference to her game-changing methods.

Dara redefined athletic longevity. This conversation unpacks how. Enjoy!

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Dr. Marc Brackett is a Yale professor, founder of the Yale Center for Emotional Intelligence, and creator of the RULER program implemented in 5,000 schools worldwide.

This conversation explores Marc's journey from childhood trauma to emotion expert, his RULER framework for emotional intelligence, and why dealing with feelings is a crucial skill most of us never learned. We discuss "Uncle Marvin" figures, the meta-moment between stimulus and response, and practical strategies for emotional regulation.

In real-time, Marc helps me explore my own emotional patterns as they emerge.

Marc offers valuable insights into navigating difficult...

Elizabeth Gilbert is the bestselling author of "Eat, Pray, Love" and her new memoir "All the Way to the River."

This conversation explores sex and love addiction, her partner's death during relapse, and finding recovery through radical honesty. We discuss hitting rock bottom while buying drugs for her dying partner, six years of celibacy as self-care, the illusion of control, and learning "no abandonment of self."

This exchange reveals how the "Eat, Pray, Love" author ended up in her darkest chapter.

Elizabeth's courage to be this vulnerable is inspiring. Enjoy!

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Rhett McLaughlin and Link Neal are the creators of Good Mythical Morning, one of YouTube's most-watched daily shows with over 19 million subscribers and 8 billion views.

This conversation explores their 40-year friendship, spiritual deconstruction from evangelical Christianity, the soul cost of YouTube's algorithm, their self-funded series Wonderhole, and what happens when your best friend is also your business partner. We talk faith, the strain on family life, and the challenge of building an empire without losing your humanity.

Along the way, they reveal how their deconstruction ultimately saved their friendship.

Rhett and Link have...

Jay Duplass is an award-winning filmmaker, actor, and co-architect of the mumblecore movement. Michael Strassner is a comedian, actor, and the protagonist of Jay's new film "The Baltimorons."

This conversation explores Jay's first solo directing effort in 14 years, Michael's journey from rock bottom to seven years of sobriety, and how they created a transcendent film for less than the cost of an LA permit. We discuss creative authenticity versus Hollywood cynicism, why early sobriety rarely gets screen time, and how serving someone else's story might save your own.

In the process, we dissect how cultural...

Dr. Andrew Huberman, Drs. Ayesha and Dean Sherzai, Dr. Anna Lembke, Dr. Lisa Miller, and Dr. David Spiegel are researchers exploring the mysteries of our most enigmatic organ.

This compilation reveals how three pounds of tissue controls everything—from the vascular networks that determine cognitive destiny to the neurochemistry that drives addiction. Why 97% of Alzheimer's cases aren't inevitable, how dopamine traps us, what happens during spiritual experiences, and why hypnosis works.

These insights offer understanding of the neural mechanisms that shape every moment of your existence. Enjoy!

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Olga Khazan is a staff writer for The Atlantic and author of "Me, But Better."

This conversation explores personality mutability and Olga's experiment to transform from anxious introvert to someone freed from her own patterns. We discuss the Big Five traits, her Miami breakdown that sparked everything, and why anxiety isn't actually your superpower.

Along the way, we examine the paradox of self-acceptance.

This exchange is about agency, transformation, and why we amplify our suffering. Enjoy!

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James Frey is the author of "A Million Little Pieces," a book that spoke to the deepest, darkest parts of countless readers in early recovery.

This conversation explores his journey to become literature's bad boy, his heroes like Baudelaire and Henry Miller, and his philosophy of "prowling with the panther." We discuss the intersection of creativity and the Tao, where inspiration comes from, and his unique approach to capturing vitality on the page.

Along the way, James recounts a few things he's never shared publicly.

This is a manifesto on the importance of...

Roll On resurfaces from the chrysalis!

Adam Skolnick and I unpack 90 days post-surgery, why the caterpillar needs a tortoise mind to become a butterfly, and the death of authentic podcasting.

On tap: The state of Podcastistan, why I'm breaking up with viral culture, and the unexpected joy of moving at glacier pace. We explore Phil Stutz's three truths, Alaska's last frontier vibes, and why Deadwood still hits different.

Plus: Movies are officially back, friends of the pod crushing impossible distances—because regular suffering is passé—and why community beats audience every damn time. Enjoy...

This conversation explores the war on science, the misdirection of the MAHA movement, and what's happening to public health while everyone argues about food dyes. We discuss how a $1.1 trillion healthcare cut happened under the radar, why "seed oils" didn't exist until TikTok invented them, and Jessica's systemic solutions for actually making America healthy.

Additionally, she explains how health misinformation has become a profitable fear machine.

Jessica brings compassionate clarity to the current health policy landscape. Enjoy!

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Jim Murphy is the author of "Inner Excellence," a book compelling enough that NFL players read it during playoff games.

This conversation explores Jim's counterintuitive thesis that selflessness, not ego, is the foundation of fearless performance. We discuss his journey from mental breakdown to spiritual awakening, his five years of solitude in the desert, and why self-centeredness is our greatest obstacle to both peak performance and fulfillment.

Along the way, Jim reveals my own attachment to outcomes and the transactional relationship I have with love.

Jim's wisdom is hard-won. This conversation is powerful...

Dr. Mindy Pelz is a functional medicine expert, bestselling author of "Fast Like a Girl," and a specialist in women's hormonal health.

This conversation explores why modern life creates an evolutionary mismatch for women, the hormonal hierarchy that controls everything, and why fasting isn't one-size-fits-all. We discuss metabolic switching, why your pre-period cravings are biological, and how menopause can be empowerment rather than decline.

Mindy uncovers the fundamental flaws in our approach to female health.

This is a must-listen for any woman ready to stop giving her power away and start trusting her...

Peter Carlisle is a veteran sports agent who has guided Olympic champions like Michael Phelps and Simone Biles.

This conversation explores the hidden mental health crisis behind Olympic gold and the existential threat facing elite athletes when their careers end. We discuss the Weight of Gold documentary, why 90% of Olympians struggle post-competition, and how youth sports have become a destructive machine.

He also shares how he almost passed on signing the greatest swimmer of all time.

Peter is a truth-teller about what greatness costs. This one hits different. Enjoy!

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Jennifer Pastiloff is a bestselling author and creator of the viral "On Being Human" movement.

This conversation explores her journey from childhood trauma to radical self-acceptance, her concept of silencing the "inner asshole," and why your want is enough to change everything. We discuss her father's death at eight, living in "the land of fine," and the revolutionary idea that you are your proof of life.

She demonstrates how our deepest wounds become our greatest superpowers for connection.

Jennifer is a rare gem. This exchange is deeply nourishing. Enjoy!

This is the ultimate sleep compilation featuring Bryan Johnson, Andrew Huberman, Matthew Walker, and Simon Hill.

These conversations explore the mythology of sleep deprivation, why hustle culture is biologically devastating, and how circadian rhythms govern your brain states. From the paradoxical relationship between exhaustion and productivity to why what you eat before bed can wreak havoc on your sleep quality.

I reveal my own Mount Everest—the arithmetic of nighttime eating that's been leading me astray for years.

Sleep isn't lost time. It's the highest return on time you'll ever get. Enjoy!

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Will Ahmed is the founder and CEO of Whoop, the wearable device that's quietly revolutionizing how elite athletes and everyday people optimize their bodies.

This conversation explores Will’s journey from overtrained college athlete to building a multibillion-dollar company by cracking the recovery code. We discuss heart rate variability, why Michael Phelps’ data looked superhuman, and how a panic attack made meditation his secret weapon.

Along the way, I reflect on my own relationship with data.

Will is unlocking human potential at scale. And this exchange reveals how. Enjoy!

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John John Florence is a three-time World Surf League Champion and one of the most naturally gifted surfers of his generation.

This conversation explores John John's decision to step away from competition at his peak. We discuss his evolution from forcing outcomes to allowing flow, why mastery begins with surrendering control, and transforming pressure into presence. We delve into why external achievements can't heal internal wounds and his choice to prioritize fatherhood over fame.

Through it all, John John shares the profound life lessons the ocean has taught him.

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Leading microbiome researchers Will Bulsiewicz, Tim Spector, and Robynne Chutkan share discoveries that are rewriting health science.

This compilation explores how 5 grams of fiber can boost cancer survival by 30%, why tumors have their own microbiomes, and how 70% of your immune system lives in your gut. We discuss why depression is an inflammatory disorder and how what you eat directly affects how you feel.

These experts reveal how to optimize the trillions of microorganisms controlling your health.

The implications are vast, and the solutions are surprisingly accessible. Enjoy!

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Dr. Laurie Santos is a renowned psychology professor at Yale University and creator of the most popular course in Yale's history: "Psychology and the Good Life."

This conversation explores why our intuitions about happiness are spectacularly wrong and the mental health crisis plaguing young people. We discuss how our brains mislead us about well-being, the power of negative visualization, and evidence-based "rewirements" to overcome our natural biases. 

Along the way, she shares the stark reality among elite students and practical strategies for authentic happiness.

Laurie brings science to humanity's quest for happiness. Essential f...

Ethan Suplee is a renowned actor known for My Name is Earl, American History X, and The Wolf of Wall Street.

This conversation explores the intersection of trauma, food addiction, and the false narratives of transformation. We discuss Ethan's journey through multiple relapses, the psychology behind sustainable change, and why "diet and exercise" is both completely true and profoundly dishonest.

Along the way, Ethan dismantles the mythology of quick fixes and linear progress.

Ethan is called to serve. This exchange is incredibly nourishing. Enjoy!

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Roll On returns! Brace yourselves! 

Adam Skolnick and I catch up on spinal fusion surgery, going slow to go slow, and what happens when the universe finally gets your attention. 

On tap: recovery realizations, walking very slowly, and the wild idea that maybe you're enough without all the doing. We dive into LA's current chaos, maintaining humanity, and why "dear one" isn't as cringy as it sounds. 

Last but not least, we explore worthiness, presence, and the art of sitting still when your whole identity is built on movement. Cheers!

Bob Roth is one of America's most experienced meditation teachers and executive director of The David Lynch Foundation.

This conversation explores the intersection of ancient transcendence and modern necessity. We discuss Bob's 50+ year practice, David Lynch's final words about happiness, the neuroscience of "effortless meditation," and why accessing the fourth state of consciousness isn't a luxury, it's survival technology for the age of AI.

He shows how 20 minutes rewires your brain, cuts cortisol by up to 40%, and unlocks "unbounded awareness."

Bob democratizes transcendence. This is meditation without the mysticism. Enjoy!

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Dr. Matthew Nagra is a Vancouver-based naturopathic doctor and nutrition researcher who tackles misinformation around diet and nutrition on social media.

This conversation dismantles nutrition's most malevolent misconceptions—from seed oil hysteria to carnivore evangelism. We explore how tribal allegiances have replaced science, why plant proteins aren't inferior, and the rise of LDL denialism. Matt systematically debunks myths while exposing the cherry-picked studies fueling dietary tribalism.

In doing so, he shows us how to distinguish between legitimate research and algorithmic propaganda.

Matt is a myth-busting extraordinaire. This exchange cuts straight through the noise. En...

Darin Olien is a wellness expert and protagonist of Netflix's "Down to Earth" with Zac Efron.

This conversation explores the hidden dangers lurking in everyday products we assume are safe, from deodorant and dental floss to clothing and cleaning supplies. We discuss Darin's book "Fatal Conveniences," the toxic chemicals in our environment, why regulation is backwards, and simple swaps to protect your health.

Darin also exposes the shocking truths about "forever chemicals" and why your morning routine might be slowly poisoning you.

This re-release is more timely than ever. Enjoy!

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Craig Mod is an artist, author, and photographer who has lived in Japan for 25 years, chronicling the country through thousands of miles of recent solo walks.

We explore walking as inner cartography—a practice that transforms attention into meaning. We discuss Craig's journey from his best friend's murder in Connecticut to finding home in Tokyo, the ineffable Japanese concept of "yōyū," reconciling adoption trauma through movement, and how 300-mile walks without digital distraction became his path to healing.

His story takes a stunning turn when these walks ultimately lead him back to meet his birt...

Mike Birbiglia is a master storyteller, acclaimed comedian, and the creative force behind Netflix specials including "The Old Man & the Pool" and his newest, "The Good Life."

This conversation explores the quiet architecture of story—how to shape it, live it, and share it in a way that matters. We talk about finding empathy for the parents who couldn’t fully show up, embracing feedback without losing your voice, and why the creative process might just be as simple and profound as “letting your brain go for a walk.”

It’s not about performance. It’s about pres...

Dr. Matthew Walker is a world-renowned neuroscientist, sleep expert, and the bestselling author of “Why We Sleep.”

In this conversation, we explore sleep not as a passive state, but as the biological foundation of life itself—the platform from which wakefulness emerges. We dive into the architecture of sleep, its vital role in immune function, disease prevention, memory, mood, and performance. We also touch on dreams, sleepwalking, and the hidden costs of even modest sleep disruption.

I share my own long, complicated relationship with sleep—and what I’ve learned in the process.

Matthew is...

Stuart McMillan is an elite track and field coach who has guided 70+ Olympians to over 30 medals across nine Olympic Games. As CEO of ALTIS, a global leader in sports education, he's revolutionized how we understand human movement.

This conversation is an exploration of speed—not just as a metric, but as a kind of alchemy. At the heart of Stuart's philosophy is a powerful paradox: the marriage of ferocity and fluidity. Precision and artistry. Intensity and grace.

We unpack why sprinting may be the ultimate human expression, how movement becomes a mirror for self-understanding, and wh...

Dr. Judith Joseph is a Harvard-trained psychiatrist, clinical professor at NYU Medical School, and a renowned voice on high-functioning depression.

In this conversation, we explore the paradox of achievement and anhedonia—the curious, often painful reality that success doesn't always equate to joy. Judith shares her clinical insights into why so many high performers feel emotionally flat, walking us through her integrative approach to mental health and her groundbreaking "5 V's" framework for reclaiming points of joy.

This one hit close to home. I found myself confronting how we chase achievement while disconnecting from what truly ma...

Paul Hawken is one of the great elder statesmen of environmentalism, a bestselling author, and the mind behind Drawdown and Regeneration. 

This conversation explores the biosphere's intrinsic intelligence through the expansive lens of Paul's latest book, Carbon: The Book of Life. We discuss carbon's improbable origins, examine the mycelial networks that function as Earth's connective tissue, and challenge our extractive relationship with nature. 

He methodically deconstructs our reductive approaches to climate solutions, highlighting how humility and wonder might be our most powerful tools for planetary stewardship.

Paul’s perspective represents not merely a shif...

Kate Courtney is a world champion mountain biker, Olympian, and the palmarès-rich face of American cycling.

This conversation examines Kate's Olympic torch moment with Tom Cruise, her athletic philosophy, and her groundbreaking She Sends Racing initiative. We delve into mountain biking's Marin County roots, the tension between data and intuition, balancing Stanford studies with World Cup competition, and redefining success beyond traditional metrics.

Weaving personal stories into meaningful insights, she transforms cycling philosophy into a guide for navigating life's challenges.

Kate redefines possibility. This conversation distills years of elite competition into universally a...

Ky Dickens is the award-winning filmmaker behind "The Telepathy Tapes," the viral podcast phenomenon.

This conversation explores the intersection of neurodiversity and consciousness as Ky shares her journey documenting non-speaking autistic individuals with apparent telepathic abilities. We discuss her transformation from pragmatic skeptic to someone witnessing replicable telepathic demonstrations, the concept of "The Hill" (where individuals telepathically gather), and how these discoveries challenge our materialist conceptualization of reality.

As I oscillate between wonder and skepticism, Ky provides a steady compass through my conflicted intellectual terrain.

Chip Conley is a hospitality maverick, founder of Modern Elder Academy, and the entrepreneurial sage who helped transform Airbnb from a startup to a global phenomenon.

This conversation explores midlife as a chrysalis rather than a crisis—a transformative journey from ego to soul. Chip illuminates the path from horizontal achievement to vertical growth, addressing life's longest yet least understood phase. We discuss his near-death experience, the nature of wisdom, and why friendship becomes essential to wellness as we age.

In the process, Chip creates space for me to re...

Dan Harris is the former ABC News anchor whose on-air panic attack catalyzed his transformation from skeptical journalist to meditation ambassador.

This conversation explores Dan’s journey with meditation—from stress management tool to profound inquiry into consciousness and uncertainty. We discuss his practice evolving far beyond his bestselling book and podcast “10% Happier,” his transformative encounters with the Dalai Lama, and how Buddhist principles provided equanimity during his challenging business separation.

Dan reveals how meditation builds emotional resilience—teaching us to observe our thoughts rather than being owned by them. Enjoy!

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Phil Stutz is the legendary psychiatrist, author, and protagonist in the Netflix documentary “Stutz.” Alongside co-author and writer Elise Loehnen, they explore their new book “True & False Magic.”

This conversation delves into “Part X”—the destructive force within us all—along with Universe 1 vs. Universe 2 thinking, and how pain, uncertainty, and constant work serve as unavoidable portals to growth. Together, they present actionable tools and a profound spiritual framework for living fully.

Along the way, Phil illustrates concepts with hand-drawn diagrams, while Elise translates these insights into everyday practice. 

Their complemen...

Kurt Sutter and Katey Sagal are the Hollywood power couple behind “Sons of Anarchy,” numerous iconic performances, and hosts of the podcast “PIE.”

This conversation strips bare the intoxicating trap of fame, the parallel paths that led them both to sobriety at 31, and the brutal honesty required to save their relationship when “money, property, and prestige” threatened everything.

Kurt’s evolution from Hollywood’s combative bad boy to spiritual seeker alongside Katey’s unflinching wisdom on intimacy creates a masterclass in reinvention. 

They’re authentic. They’re vulnerable. Their journey...

Mel Robbins is a celebrated podcast host, #1 New York Times bestselling author, and one of the most sought-after experts in mindset and behavior change.

This conversation explores the paradox at the heart of human suffering—that we exhaust ourselves trying to control the uncontrollable. Mel’s counterintuitive “Let Them Theory” offers a deceptively simple yet profound antidote to this universal struggle, challenging us to disabuse ourselves of the illusion of control and redirect our energy toward what truly matters.

She deftly unpacks how relinquishing the compulsion to manage others ultimately grants us the equ...

Maria Shriver is a renowned journalist, Kennedy family scion, and award-winning advocate for

women's brain health.

This conversation explores the parasocial relationship between public figure and audience as Maria

shares her authentic journey of self-discovery through poetry. We discuss her upbringing in

America's political "royalty," the transactional nature of achievement-based love, finding wholeness

after heartbreak, and her groundbreaking work in Alzheimer's research.

She shares profound insights on disentangling our true selves from predetermined narratives and

the magnanimous act of forgiveness.

Maria’s courage is...

Roll On is back baby!

Today Rich and Adam Skolnick catch up on the decade that is 2025. On tap is SXSW, Elmo,

psychedelics, the LA fires, and practical strategies for navigating the turbulence of our current

moment. They also go deep on the Netflix hit “Adolescence” and its many important themes,

including the impact of social media on teenagers and the crisis of young men. Along the way, they

answer listener questions and more. Rejoice!

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Alex Hutchinson is a National Magazine Award-winning journalist, Cambridge-trained physicist, and bestselling author of “Endure” and “The Explorer’s Gene.”

This conversation explores Alex’s transcendent perspective on our primordial drive to seek the unknown. We unpack his fascinating evolution from elite runner and NSA researcher to becoming the voice on endurance science, and now, the cartographer of humanity’s exploratory impulse.

We dive into the genetic and neurological drivers of uncertainty-seeking, the importance of embracing difficulty, the role of play, and finding meaning through effort in adventure and everyday life.

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Today I’m sharing an episode of Ask Lisa: The Psychology of Parenting hosted by Dr. Lisa Damour and Reena.

In this episode, Dr. Lisa Damour and Reena explore the topic of "Should I Talk with My Teens About My Own Mental Health Challenges?"

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Jeff Krasno is a wellness entrepreneur, author of “Good Stress,” and co-founder of the iconic global yoga festival Wanderlust.

This conversation explores Jeff’s journey from “wealth and hellness” to authentic well-being. His thesis on hormetic stress offers an antidote to our convenience-obsessed world. We discuss the political horseshoeing of wellness, the metaphysical Tao of Health, and how embracing discomfort forges both physiological and psychological resilience.

Note: In celebration of Jeff’s appearance on the podcast, we’re giving away four signed copies of his transformative book. Subscribe to the newsletter at richroll.com...

Robin Greenfield is a transcendental environmental activist who has taken the concept of simplicity to its existential extreme.

This conversation explores how Robin's radical approach to consumption challenges our assumptions about possession, examining his 1,600-mile journey down the Pacific coast, his current experiment living in Griffith Park with absolutely nothing, the nature of contentment, our interdependence with Earth, and the liberation found in surrendering attachment.

At one point, he fashions a toothbrush from a California bay branch right before our eyes.

Robin is minimalism personified. This conversation will recalibrate your material perspective. Enjoy!<...

Annaka Harris is a New York Times bestselling author and creator of the groundbreaking audio documentary series “Lights On.”

This conversation explores the profound question of whether consciousness is fundamental to the universe rather than merely an emergent property of complex matter. We discuss the ineffable nature of felt experience, the illusion of self, and how our perceptual limitations restrict our understanding of the world around us.

Also, I share a very personal and meaningful experience that changed how I think about the nature of reality.

Annaka is an i...

Dr. Ethan Kross is a renowned psychologist, bestselling author, and expert on controlling the conscious mind.

This conversation explores his innovative approach to mental fitness and how our emotions function as an operating system. We examine why difficult emotions serve a purpose, how our inner dialogue shapes our reality, and why we have more control over our responses than we realize.

Along the way, he helps me analyze my own patterns of thought spirals and disaster-casting.

Ethan’s work offers a pattern interrupt for those caught in menta...

Sophie Hawley-Weld and Tucker Halpern, together known as SOFI TUKKER, defy every convention of electronic dance music.

This conversation explores their unlikely origin story—from D1 basketball captain and aspiring diplomat to electronic music revolutionaries who’ve achieved stratospheric success by approaching their craft with athletic discipline and meditative mindfulness. Through an alchemy of Portuguese poetry and pulsing beats, they’ve amassed over 3 billion streams, scored multiple Grammy nominations, and landed high-profile Apple campaigns while sustaining well-being amidst non-stop touring.

These two transformed my understanding of what electronic artists can be.

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Dr. Ellen Langer is Harvard’s first tenured female psychology professor, a pioneering researcher on the mind-body connection, and author of “The Mindful Body.”  

This conversation explores the radical impact of certainty on well-being and Ellen’s perspective that redefines traditional notions of mindfulness through the simple act of noticing new things.

In her return, we discuss why uncertainty brings freedom, how thoughts influence health outcomes, the kaleidoscopic nature of consciousness, and why everything we think we know deserves to be questioned.

Ellen is brilliant, irreverent, and wise. Her ins...

Arthur Brooks is a Harvard professor, behavioral scientist, and the world’s leading researcher on happiness.

This conversation explores the ineffable nature of happiness and meaning, explores why success addiction plagues high achievers, and discusses how science can open a portal to deeper truths. We investigate the dualistic tension between striving and surrender, as Arthur reveals how our fixation on striving often obscures the true source of happiness.

Through a captivating shift in perspective, he sheds light on a new understanding of love, purpose, and fulfillment.

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RJ Scaringe is the visionary founder of Rivian, who turned his childhood obsession with engines into one of automotive history’s most audacious ventures.

This conversation explores the intractable challenges of starting a car company from scratch, balancing “extreme optimism” with “robust realism,” and why this moment represents a once-in-a-planet opportunity to reinvent transportation. 

RJ shares intimate details of Rivian’s journey toward a carbon-neutral future, from nearly running out of payroll to leading a publicly traded company.

This is a masterclass in playing the long game. Enjoy!

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Dr. Valter Longo is a pioneering longevity researcher, Director of the USC Longevity Institute, and one of TIME’s 50 most influential people in healthcare.

This conversation explores his groundbreaking Fasting Mimicking Diet and its profound implications for aging, disease treatment, and longevity. From cancer therapy to diabetes reversal, Valter reveals how therapeutic fasting could transform modern medicine.

Along the way, Valter challenges my long-held assumptions about protein intake and sleep.

His research offers hope for extending human healthspan, and this conversation is illuminating at ev...

Elle Macpherson is a record-breaking Sports Illustrated cover model, pioneering entrepreneur, and the ineffable force behind the global wellness empire WelleCo.

This conversation explores the intersection of intuition and business acumen, chronicling Elle’s iconoclastic journey from supermodel to mogul. We discuss her audacious choices, from walking away from Ford Models to build her own agency to following her heart’s wisdom in health decisions. Through stories of sobriety, spirituality, and transformation, Elle reveals how inner knowing can triumph over convention.

In doing so, she offers profound insights on the philosophical tensio...

Steve Magness is a renowned performance expert and author of “Win the Inside Game,” who has dedicated his career to examining why we often calcify into patterns that no longer serve us.

This conversation explores how our modern obsession with achievement often leads to self-sabotage. Through the aperture of his journey from elite runner to pioneering coach, Steve offers a framework for sustainable excellence that emphasizes internal growth over external validation.

Steve reveals how social media hijacks our basic needs, why group identity threatens individual growth, and what it truly means to win...

Sahil Bloom is a Stanford athlete turned finance executive whose life took an unexpected turn when a friend's observation catalyzed a complete reevaluation of success.

This conversation explores his perspective on wealth, which transcends traditional metrics to embrace a more expansive definition of abundance. We discuss his framework of the Five Types of Wealth, the power of tiny actions to reshape destiny, and how to deploy your attention toward what truly matters.

He shares profound insights on nourishing relationships, differentiating between urgent and essential, and finding purpose through service.<...

Today I’m sharing an episode of Feel Better, Live More hosted by Dr. Rangan Chatterjee.

In this episode, Dr. Chatterjee sits down with Eliud Kipchoge, the legendary Kenyan long-distance runner who became the first person to run a sub-two-hour marathon.

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Dr. Rhonda Patrick is a renowned scientist, researcher, and the founder of FoundMyFitness.

This conversation explores how exercise enhances brain function—upending old beliefs about lactate—while examining new research on microplastics’ accumulation in our bodies and practical ways to protect ourselves.

In the process, Rhonda helps me understand my own relationship with exercise intensity and chronic exposure to environmental toxins.

As always, Rhonda provides fascinating insights along with practical wisdom. Enjoy!

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Vice Admiral Dr. Vivek Murthy is America’s Surgeon General, a visionary public health leader, and architect of groundbreaking initiatives addressing loneliness and youth mental health.

This conversation—likely his final interview in office—reveals how disconnection underlies our growing health challenges. We explore the parental mental health crisis, the impact of social media on youth, and his powerful parting prescription for America: choose community. While his recent landmark advisory on alcohol warning labels came after our recording, we delve into his vision for healing by rebuilding connection.

Dr. Murthy offers us medici...

Peter Diamandis is a renowned physician, futurist, and the founder of XPRIZE, whose paradigm-shifting work transforms our understanding of aging and human potential.

This conversation delves into the duality of our longevity revolution: the simple, actionable tools accessible to anyone today, and the bold technologies that could reshape our future. From innovative diagnostics to organ regeneration, Peter details why this decade might fundamentally alter our relationship with aging.

Along the way, we examine practical health strategies and the philosophical implications of extending human healthspan.

Peter is the ultimate optimist. Enjoy!

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Mark Manson is a renowned author and cultural critic, known for “The Subtle Art of Not Giving a F*ck”—a global phenomenon that has remained on the NYT bestseller list for an unprecedented 328 weeks.

This conversation explores the paradox between genuine growth and modern self-help culture. We discuss Mark’s dramatic transformation, his contrarian views on personal development, why being intelligent often hinders change, and how the most effective solutions in life are typically the boring ones no one wants to hear about.

In today’s metrics-driven landscape, he reveals how to navig...

In this concluding chapter of our “Best Of” 2024 series, we share wisdom from an extraordinary group of changemakers who challenged our assumptions and expanded our possibilities.

From a septuagenarian fitness icon to Spider-Man himself, from free solo climbers to modern mystics—each guest illuminated different facets of human potential. Their stories of courage, creativity, and conscious living remind us that transformation is always possible.

I’m deeply grateful to our guests for their vulnerability, to my team for their dedication, and to our sponsors for their continued support.

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We are here to grow. We are here to transform. This is our birthright. This is our purpose.

As the year ends, I want to honor this truth by sharing insights from some of the most remarkable voices who joined us in 2024. In this first of our two-part Best Of series, we revisit conversations that challenged and inspired us to reach higher.

From stories of survival and rebirth, to breakthroughs in longevity science and brain health, to raw conversations about athletics and consciousness—each guest illuminated different paths to living authentically and...

Dr. Rangan Chatterjee is a renowned physician, one of Britain’s most influential medical voices, and author of the new book, “Make Change That Lasts.”

This conversation explores the intersection of neuroscience and human potential as it introduces his groundbreaking concept of “minimal reliance.” Dr. Chatterjee deconstructs why we remain tethered to patterns that no longer serve us, while offering actionable tools for lasting change.

Don’t miss this conversation—it might transform your thoughts about personal evolution.

Enjoy!

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Harley Finkelstein is Shopify’s President and an entrepreneur who started his first company at 13.

This conversation explores the intersection of commerce and personal growth through Harley’s iconoclastic lens. We discuss democratizing entrepreneurship, the role of anxiety as fuel for achievement, and why this might be the most generative moment in history to start a business.

Harley challenges my self-perception as an entrepreneur, forcing me to untether from limiting beliefs about what it means to build something meaningful.

Sharp, vulnerable, and endlessly optimistic—this e...

Josh Szeps is a renowned broadcaster, host of Uncomfortable Conversations, and a former voice of Australia’s public radio who brings discernment to our most difficult dialogues.

This conversation explores why genuine dialogue matters in an age of tribal certainties. We discuss the derangement of our information landscape, the erosion of shared truth, and how to navigate today’s most contentious issues with grace and humor.

Josh is a rare voice who can untangle complex issues without amplifying division. Our exchange is both timely and necessary. Enjoy!

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Dr. Charan Ranganath is a prominent neuroscientist, a professor at UC Davis, and the author of the influential book “Why We Remember.” 

This conversation explores the profound intersection of neuroscience and human experience. Charan reveals that our most resonant memories resemble paintings more than photographs, continuously reshaped by the present moment. We discuss the role of memory in identity, survival, and healing, as well as its implications in our digital age. 

During our exchange, I gained insight into why my cherished memories might be less reliable than I had previo...

David Roche is an iconoclastic ultrarunner who broke one of running’s most hallowed records at the Leadville 100—in his first attempt at the distance.

This conversation explores his audacious and counterintuitive approach to endurance performance, emphasizing scientific precision over conventional wisdom. Through meticulous experimentation and the courage to “Disrespect the distance,” David signals a new era in human performance.

He recounts his journey from college football to record-breaking ultrarunning, showing how embracing vulnerability enabled him to achieve seemingly impossible dreams.

David is rewriting the rule...

Kristian Blummenfelt is an Olympic champion, sub-7-hour Ironman record holder, and master practitioner of the Norwegian Method—a revolutionary, science-driven approach to endurance training.

This conversation explores elite performance through a unique lens: an Olympic champion analyzing consecutive setbacks in Paris and Kona with methodical precision, while demonstrating extraordinary resilience by winning Frankfurt just weeks after Paris. He offers rare insight into the mind of an athlete constantly pushing the boundaries of human performance.

Along the way, he reveals why losing hurts more than winning feels good.

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Dr. Robin Berzin is the Founder and CEO of Parsley Health, and a paradigm-shifting force in primary care who’s made functional medicine accessible to millions.

This conversation explores the interplay between modern healthcare and her approach to healing, which emphasizes treating root causes over merely managing symptoms with medications. Her revolutionary “Brains, Bones and Booty” protocol changes how we think about women’s longevity, while her tech-enabled approach to functional medicine makes holistic care accessible to millions.

She also offers compelling insights about everything from GLP-1s to suppleme...

Esther Perel is a renowned psychotherapist, bestselling author, and host of the groundbreaking podcast “Where Should We Begin?”

This conversation explores the vicissitudes of modern love and Esther’s non-judgmental approach to relationships, emphasizing the tension between our need for security and our yearning for freedom. Through her uniquely multicultural lens, she highlights how our increasingly atomized world impacts intimacy, desire, and human connection.

Along the way, Esther expertly deconstructs my own marriage dynamics, offering insights that left me questioning my paradigms around love and partnership.

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Cory Richards is a renowned National Geographic photographer and artist behind the iconic avalanche selfie that graced the magazine’s 125th-anniversary cover.

This conversation explores the paradox of achievement and healing through Cory’s raw lens on mental health, trauma, and the persistent need to matter. From teenage homelessness to becoming the first American to summit an 8000-meter peak in winter, Cory reveals how our greatest strengths can become our most binding prisons.

We peel back the layers of our stories and the vital distinction between external validation and true...

Rebecca Rusch is a legendary endurance athlete, 7x world champion, and protagonist of the Emmy-winning film “Blood Road.”

This conversation explores the esoteric intersection of trauma and transformation, sparked by a fateful bike crash on Veterans Day 2021. We discuss her Byzantine journey through the healthcare system, the invisible epidemic of brain injury, psychedelic-assisted therapy, and the profound shift from warrior to healer.

In doing so, we examine the universe’s more profound messages—when we’re finally ready to listen.

Rebecca’s courage to be this vuln...

Bruce Dickinson is the legendary frontman of Iron Maiden and a true polymath—a commercial airline pilot, Olympic-caliber fencer, author, and cancer survivor.

Joined by acclaimed filmmaker, close collaborator, and mutual friend Sacha Gervasi, we explore Bruce’s approach to creativity—from music to aviation, and humanitarian service. We discuss his journey from bullied schoolboy to global rock icon, his unique cognitive abilities, and how flying into war zones has shaped his worldview.

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Julie Piatt is a modern mystic, accomplished yogi, bestselling author, and the founder/CEO of SriMu, the pioneering plant-based cheese company. She’s also my wife and most frequent podcast guest.

This conversation explores the intersection of trauma and transformation through Julie’s circumspect perspective, emphasizing the ethereal connection between physical healing and spiritual awakening. We discuss her recent injury, returning her parents’ ashes to Alaska, artistic expression, navigating societal division, and finding unity through universal love in increasingly fractured times.

She also confronts me with my own calcified certai...

Yuval Noah Harari is a renowned historian, bestselling author of “Sapiens” and “Homo Deus,” and the mind behind the new book, “Nexus.”

This conversation explores AI’s impact on society through Yuval’s unique historical lens. We discuss AI as “alien intelligence,” information’s role in shaping political systems, embracing uncertainty, institutional trust, and finding clarity amid rapid change.

His analysis of our collective human psyche in the AI era is profound and revelatory.

Yuval is a treasure trove of wisdom. This one is enlightening and sober...

Today I’m sharing an episode of Life With Machines—a new podcast hosted by Baratunde Thurston.

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In this episode, Baratunde sits down with King Willonius, the genius behind “BBL Drizzy.” They talk about his journey creating the first AI-generated hit song, explore Willonius’ innovative blend of music, comedy, tech, and they ask: How is AI reshaping the boundaries of artistic expression?

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Cam Wurf is a paragon of endurance athleticism, a professional cyclist for INEOS Grenadiers, and an Ironman champion.

This conversation explores Cam’s training strategies for Kona, discussing endurance sports' evolution, performance metrics, and elite training transparency. Cam offers insights on peak fitness at 41, tech's impact, emerging talents, the current cycling and triathlon landscape, and more.

His leadership and maturity yield a perspective on balancing the demands of grand tours with Ironman races, offering aspiring athletes a glimpse into high-level endurance sports.

Cam's enthusiasm fo...

Tom Holland is the star of Spider-Man, a nascent entrepreneur, and one of Hollywood’s most grounded young actors.

This conversation traverses the nexus of fame, personal growth, and Tom’s journey toward sobriety, which catalyzed his foray into the non-alcoholic beverage industry. We explore his evolution from child actor to global superstar, his therapeutic relationship with golf, and how he’s remained attuned to his authentic self amidst Hollywood’s gilded chaos.

Tom candidly reflects on navigating the intricacies of the Marvel Cinematic Universe and his recent return to the v...

Alex Honnold is a global climbing icon, founder of the Honnold Foundation, and the protagonist in the Oscar-winning documentary “Free Solo.”

This conversation explores the confluence of extreme athleticism and fatherhood, delving into Alex’s evolving risk calculus and approach to adventure. We discuss Alex’s recent 2,600-mile expedition to Alaska’s Devil’s Thumb, environmental activism, his passion for climbing, embracing uncertainty, and many other topics.

His dry wit shines as he answers listener questions: everything from the ethics of risk-taking to late-night cookie binges. 

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Today I’m sharing an episode of Mentor Buffet—a new podcast hosted by Alexi Pappas, the Olympian-author-filmmaker.

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In each episode, Alexi goes deep with brilliant changemakers to learn about the mentors who made the biggest difference in their lives and set them on their path.

In this episode, Zach Braff talks with Alexi about his relationship with mentor Bill Lawrence, the creator of Scrubs and Ted Lasso. Bill was the firs...

Chase Jarvis is a renowned photographer, creative entrepreneur, and author of the new book “Never Play It Safe.”

This conversation surveys Chase’s perspective on creativity and personal growth, emphasizing risk over safety. We discuss his journey from traditional career paths to creative pioneer and CreativeLive founder, reframing failure, embracing uncertainty, finding play in everyday life, and more.

He incisively understands the creative process, offering practical tools for freeing one’s potential.

Chase is a wellspring of wisdom and inspiration. This conversation is ideal for anyo...

Adam and I are back on the mics for another rollicking “Roll On”—ready to dissect the kaleidoscope of experiences that have colored our recent existence!

We free dive into Adam’s aquatic adventures with Zuma, the Shohei Ohtani mania, my transformative Olympic journey in Paris, my unexpected connections to Netflix’s “Monsters,” streaming gems that caught our eye, and the compelling story of “Maya and the Wave.” Plus, we wade into media controversies, ponder the enigma of personal change, and more.

Time to catch up, folks! Tune in for this unvarnish...

Caroline Paul, a bestselling author, ex-firefighter, and adventurer, is here with her latest book “Tough Broad,” which explores how nature redefines aging.

This conversation explores the insidious cultural messaging about aging, especially for women, and how nature supports the five pillars of healthy longevity: community, novelty, purpose, health, and a positive mindset about aging itself.  

Caroline shares exhilarating stories of women defying expectations—from septuagenarian boogie boarders to a BASE-jumping grandmother—and recounts her wing-walking experience, demonstrating the transformative power of awe in later life.

This exc...

Dr. Sonja Lyubomirsky is a pioneering happiness researcher, bestselling author, and Distinguished Professor of Psychology at UC Riverside.

This conversation explores the cutting-edge science of happiness, debunking common myths and uncovering evidence-based strategies for a more fulfilling life. We discuss her groundbreaking research on social connection, gratitude, and the surprising impact of psychedelics on well-being.

Sonja’s work is transformative. This conversation challenges conventional wisdom about happiness and offers practical insights for living a more satisfying life. Enjoy!

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Adrian Ballinger is an elite mountaineer, a 9-time Everest summiteer, and the founder of Alpenglow Expeditions.

This conversation delves into Adrian’s Everest ascents, his “Rapid Ascent” method, views on commercial expeditions, climate change's impact on mountaineering, and fatherhood’s influence on his risk approach. We also discuss the recent controversy surrounding celebrated climber Nims Purja and its implications for the mountaineering community.

He shares insights on decision-making, resilience, and his surprising role in an upcoming indie horror film.

Adrian’s story inspires through extraordin...

Hakim Tafari is a journeyman of reinvention, master of mindfulness, and martial arts practitioner.

This conversation explores Hakim’s philosophy of surrender as a superpower and his “Sure Hearts Release” practice for personal transformation. We discuss his unique blend of street culture and ancient wisdom, from Tai Chi to running, and how mindful movement can revolutionize our approach to life.

He shares transformative experiences running ancient Mexican trails and summiting Mount Asahi in Japan—both of which catalyze profound personal growth.

Hakim is a true min...

Kimberly Snyder is a renowned nutritionist, New York Times bestselling author, and wellness expert.

This conversation explores the nexus of ancient wisdom and cutting-edge science in Kimberly’s iconoclastic approach to wellness, which emphasizes heart intelligence over conventional mindfulness paradigms. We delve into her journey from anxiety to equanimity, the physiological implications of heart-brain communication, the five stages of heart awakening, and how to tap into our innate wisdom for self-actualization.

Along the way, Kimberly guides me through a heart coherence exercise, offering a tangible experience of this powerful pr...

John Mackey is a visionary entrepreneur, co-founder of Whole Foods Market, and a pioneering advocate for conscious capitalism.

This conversation explores John’s journey from hippie to CEO and his unconventional business philosophy. We explore conscious capitalism, purpose-driven entrepreneurship, value-based business success, embracing challenges, spiritual practices in leadership, and finding intention through service.

He also shares insights on personal growth and organizational culture that could transform how you approach business and life.

John is a true original. And this conversation is a masterclass in co...

Wasfia Nazreen is the first Bengali and Bangladeshi to scale the Seven Summits and K2, and a mentee of the Dalai Lama.

This conversation explores Wasfia’s extraordinary journey from childhood trauma to spiritual expansion through mountaineering. We discuss her unique perspective on personal evolution, which blends extreme physical challenges with deep inner work.

She offers insights on healing trauma and transforming obstacles into opportunities for growth.

Wasfia inspires. This conversation is a facility for anyone seeking to climb their inner metaphorical mountains. Enjoy!

Today I’m sharing an episode of Soul Boom—a new podcast hosted by Rainn Wilson exploring meaningful and inspiring topics that tickle the mind, heart and soul. 

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In this episode, author Anne Lamott joins Rainn for an enlightening conversation about the complexities of love, spiritual growth, and self-acceptance. Anne shares her insights on the journey of finding love later in life, the importance of community, and the transformative power of radical self-care. Their discussion delve...

Ryan Holiday is a renowned author, modern Stoic philosopher, and the driving force behind the resurgence of ancient wisdom in contemporary culture.

This conversation explores the intersection of Stoicism and Ryan’s iconoclastic perspective on personal ethics, which emphasizes actionable virtue over abstract philosophy. We discuss Ryan’s journey from a marketing prodigy to a philosophical powerhouse, his interpretation of Stoic justice, and the drivers of ethical behavior. 

We also examine the importance of moral rectitude in a complex world, the role of individual choice in societal change, finding purpo...

Kimberly Shannon Murphy is Hollywood’s premier stuntwoman, author of the memoir “Glimmer,” and a powerful advocate for trauma survivors.

We explore how her high-risk stunt work, including her iconic performance in Taylor Swift’s “Bad Blood” video, intersects with an unconventional healing journey. From childhood trauma to Hollywood success, we discuss her use of psychedelic therapy, breaking generational cycles and parenting challenges, and redefining what it means to “do the work.” 

Kimberly is an inspiration. And this conversation is both intense and illuminating. Enjoy!

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Ross Edgley is a world-renowned extreme adventurer, author, and the star of National Geographic’s “Shark vs. Ross Edgley”

This conversation explores Ross’s superhuman feats of endurance, including his recent 510km non-stop swim down the Yukon River. We discuss his unique physiological abilities, training with the Hemsworth brothers, and his race against sharks.

He shares his philosophy on finding purpose through struggle and reveals how he consumed 40,000 calories in 24 hours.

Ross is a force of nature. And this conversation is an adventure. Enjoy!

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Rowdy Gaines is a three-time Olympic gold medalist, NBC’s voice of swimming, and a living legend in the aquatic world.

This conversation explores Rowdy’s extraordinary journey from late-blooming swimmer to world record holder and beloved broadcaster. We dig into his mental resilience through setbacks like the 1980 Olympic boycott and a battle with Guillain-Barré syndrome, his perspective on the evolution of competitive swimming, and his passion for water safety advocacy.

He offers a behind-the-scenes look at the Paris Olympics and much more along the way.

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