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The States Project’s Melissa Walker is back on Forever35 to discuss the importance of upcoming off-year elections, like high-stakes contests in Virginia next week. The ladies also talk about why driving powerful change at the state legislative level is vital, what door-knocking can do, and how to make the most of dramatic career pivots in your 30’s.

In these final days before the election, the Forever35 community is raising for VIRGINIA! Any and every Giving Circle donation received from October 20, 2025 through October 28th at 11:59 pm PT will be matched dollar-for-dollar until we reach the $100,000 cap!

Listeners send in their request for bath towel recs (they’re different from dish towels!), the importance of working on your executive function skills, and advice on changing careers without the side hustle. 

What is it like to take on your aging parents' health management, finances, and the logistics of it all? Vanessa Grigoriadis, reporter and podcast producer, joins the show to get into it. She hypes her new show “So Your Parents Are Old,” that tackles the very real, very difficult stage of life when caretaking for parents is a subject that still has a sense of taboo around it. The ladies also gab about what makes today’s ultrarich — and famous — unique from other eras. 

Listeners send in their thoughtful notes about dealing with, moving through, and getting to the other side of burnout – especially when you like your job and your company. 

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Cadence Dubus (founder of Brooklyn Strength and host of the podcast Busy Body) joins Forever35 to remind us that our bodies don’t need be “optimized” and share practical reasons for getting into fitness. She also offers her take on how GLP-1s are changing the way people think about their bodies and the kinds of questions you have to ask yourself when beginning a new movement practice.

Plus, Elise shares a transformative Korean shampoo, and Doree takes another big step in her decluttering moment.

Doree and Elise hear from listeners about supporting your friends who work in the government, how to deal with burnout, and how adding some executive function hacks is working out. Plus, the link to Doree’s barrel jeans!

Sue Dominus, New York Times writer and author of The Family Dynamic: A Journey into the Mystery of Sibling Success, joins Doree and Elise to discuss how birth order does and doesn’t affect our identities, how to outsource discipline and make the home life safe and loving, and the thing she wishes she had done more with her kids.

Listeners call in with their thoughts on the efficacy of at-home laser hair removal, the joys of color analysis, opinions on THE best JLo movie, and advice for what to do with all those tiny beauty samples. 

Plus, Doree volunteers at the library and Elise goes to a Patreon event. 

Beauty writer Arabelle Sicardi joins Doree and Elise to discuss her fascinating new book The House of Beauty, which goes deep on topics like how beauty products are made, produced, and distributed around the world, including the connections between fragrance and fascism; hair and the empire of exploitation; and what it really means to live well and how that connects to biohackers and transhumanists.

Listeners have thoughts about leaving your baby for a trip for the first time, plus questions about at-home laser hair removal machines and whether you can trust “expert” advice about haircuts.

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The duo behind the podcasts Reading Glasses and Reading Smut, Mallory and Brea, come on the show to discuss why we’re seeing a rise in the romantasy and smut genres, how to dip your toe into romance if you’re not already into it, and they’re armed with lots of recommendations of what to read and watch.

Elise wonders at the efficacy of programs like denim buybacks and Sephora’s empties trade-ins, and Doree has some strong opinions! They also hear from listeners about school self-care, JLo’s best songs, and advocating for the library as a (free!) co-working space. 

Author Jade Chang joins Doree and Elise to talk about her good luck with gut health and her savory porridge dreams, what (and who) went into her new book What A Time To Be Alive, the joy of ginger, and navigating jealousies in friendship.

Doree and Elise have (just one!) dish towel rec, lots of listener recs for comfy-but-stylish mom jeans, and laser hair removal insight from listeners who’ve done it. 

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Rachel Goodwin is back from her glamorous European summer to answer your makeup questions! She’s got mascara recs for you, whether she thinks Wonderskin lip stain is worth the hype, the concealers you can use if you’re a skin picker, her favorite eyelash curlers, and more. 

Plus, Elise ranks the top J Lo movies and Doree makes a case for Maid In Manhattan.

Doree and Elise share their co-working space suggestions, soft jean recs that aren’t mom jeans, and the SUPER truth about the experience of laser hair removal with listeners. Plus, a microjoy that will bring you a smile. 

Alex Laughlin, writer, audio producer and the creator of Normal Gossip joins Doree and Elise to discuss her new show Try Hard and why it’s important to her be earnest, how she went from self-taught audio producer to building an award-winning show, and what it’s like to step away from a successful project to pursue other creative endeavors.

Elise finishes up her health scan and Doree heads to dinner with the coolest golf club in town. Then, they hear from listeners about the emotional usefulness of wigs, preparing to leave a child for the first time, and those moments when your parents shock you.  

Former Elle columnist, journalist, and author, E. Jean Carroll joins Doree and Elise to discuss the surprise release of her new book NOT MY TYPE: One Woman vs. a President. Beyond why she was itching to write about “the absurdity” of her sexual assault case against Donald Trump, they also chat about E. Jean’s advice for giving advice, her secret to great posture at 81 years old, and what she plans to do with the $83 million Trump owes her. 

Content Warning: This episode has mentions of sexual assault. 

Listeners send in yet more kitchen towel and rag recommendations! Plus, we get a post-friendship month update, and a listener asks for advice on how to handle female pattern hair loss. Plus, Doree has a dog update and Elise has a summer day out sans children!

Disclaimer: Adult language in this episode!

Comedian and writer Jena Friedman joins Forever35 to talk about her newfound joy in tennis, why she’s excited about her show at the Edinburgh Fringe Fest, the emotional response crying on stage evokes, and how she came to give a TED talk about AI.

Plus, a (positive) update from Elise on both Oscar’s recent misadventures and her biopsy, and from Doree about her hard-earned efforts at Sectionals. 

Elise meets a listener in the wild, and Doree’s clean couch hates to see her dog coming! Plus, listeners turn out en masse with dish towel (and/or kitchen rag) recs and we wrap up with some listener microjoys. 

It’s an extra-special cross-over episode when the co-hosts of GlowJob, Julia Bellary and Sasa Li, join Doree and Elise to chat about all things beauty! They get into the realities of going to aesthetician school, the future of dupes and which ones to keep an eye on, and the importance of listening to your skin about which products feel right.

Plus, Doree returns from her vacation refreshed, and Elise shares an update on her biopsy experience.

Doree’s on vacation, so Samee Junio joins Elise this week! They chat about Elise’s upcoming biopsy and all the titanium boob markers out there in the world, the hazy summer days of WWE Summer Slam, and the joy of washing your face with a silly headband. 

Then, we turn it over to a mini-ep you know and love - Mini-Ep 434: How To Keep Friends and Stay Connected, where listeners called in with their thoughts on friendship month, therapists in therapy, and more!

Editor-in-Chief of Marie Claire magazine, Nikki Ogunnaike, shares with Doree and Elise her love of stretching, the role of magazines in today's fractured attention landscape, and her insights on fashion trends, body standards, and generational differences in the workplace. They also dive into their love of reality TV, why trying your best is never cringe, and the importance of attempting to regulate your emotions. 

Plus, Doree updates Elise on how her tennis sectionals went and how she thinks she played.

Elise fills Doree in on her high-altitude work trip and Doree shares a thoughtful text with Elise before they hear from listeners about how to discuss death with children, microjoys to keep us going, and a call out for dish rags (or maybe more dish towels?). Plus, they play a quick round of what to purchase on your next trip to Trader Joes and Costco.  

Doree and Elise speak with Nicola Jane Hobbs, author The Relaxed Woman, about what reclaiming rest actually looks like outside of naps and baths, the importance of relationships in your ability to relax, and why being a relaxed woman is less about what we do and more about how we approach the world.

Plus, Doree and Elise chat about being stretched vs. stretching and the ongoing relevance of the Black Eyed Peas’ “My Humps” to their lives.

Elise shares the tales of her college-themed keg party and Doree has a minor panic when she can’t smell any of her (unscented) beauty products. They also hear from listeners about their microjoys, how to talk to kids about death, and all the spa chatter.  

Bestselling author Lindy West and her best friend, democracy policy expert Meagan Hatcher-Mays, join Doree and Elise to tell us about Text Me Back, their show about making your favorite people laugh. Along the way they also discuss the life changing magic of hydrating with electrolytes, their summer plans involving hot Doritos at the beach and doing as little as possible, and a super cute moment where they both hype each other up as only best friends can. 

Elise preps for her ’90s kegger party and Doree preps for a playdate at her house that Henry orchestrated. Then, they hear from listeners about the microjoy of lactase, how to celebrate milestone birthdays, what to do in LA for a weekend, and facial hair removal recs. 

Alicia Menendez, co-host of MSNBC’s “The Weeknight,” joins Doree and Elise to gab about how she centers herself during insane news cycles, what she loves about podcasting that’s so different from her “day” job, and the story behind producing her Broadway show, Real Women Have Curves: The Musical. Also — a plug for walking with weighted vests and Alicia’s fear that high-waisted jeans will stop being cool again.

Before Alicia joins them, Doree and Elise chat about Doree’s hot date with Matt and Elise sends her love to everyone affected by the Central Texas flood disast...

Doree and Elise catch up and discuss going to a beauty brand party together and Elise’s trip to Zion. They also learn how to clean a tutu and respond to a couple of work-related questions.

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We're on vacation, so please enjoy this very special episode of the Vibe Check podcast, featuring former Forever35 guest Sam Sanders and his co-hosts Saeed Jones and Zach Stafford. We'll be back with a fresh mini-ep on Wednesday!

On this episode of Vibe Check, Sam, Saeed, and Zach reflect on what life has taught them in the past month. Then, they talk about the state of Americana. Plus, a few recommendations to keep your vibe right.

Doree and Elise hear from listeners about recs for kids and money, how to support a family member in a bad relationship, and more (non-frumpy) sun protection recs.

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Maris Kreizman joins Forever35 to speak about her new collection of essays I Want To Burn This Place Down. Elise and Maris discuss Maris’s connection to Doree, what she’s dreaming of for our society today, and what it means to her to live a good life. 

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Doree and Elise share their recent microjoys and their thoughts on the Wirecutter Trader Joe’s list. They also hear from listeners about tennis-themed fashion, more great hair oil recs, and a tea towel throwback (and discount code).

In our Money Month finale, Doree and Elise speak with Yo Quiero Dinero host Jannese Torres about savings, retirement, and investing — everything from how to find an accountant for your specific financial needs to why you have to be a part of the capitalist system in order to change it.

Doree and Elise hear from listeners sunscreen for a specific part of our faces, answer some specific questions about our favorite beverages, and the current microjoys changing our lives. 

Financial therapist Amanda Clayman returns to Forever35 (after seven years!) to talk to Doree and Elise about the TikTok trend “loud budgeting” and its shame penalty, how the pandemic made people think about their money differently, what the phrase “money dysmorphia” really means, and the classic saver-spender relationships many people end up in. 

Elise tells about the fun Taylor Swift-themed birthday party she attended over the weekend. Then, Doree re-traumatizes Elise with a listener text about her ~bird experience~ and they hear from listeners with Zion National Park advice, Money Month feedback, and more curly hair and puppy training recs.

Doree and Elise chat about Doree’s birthday party hosted by Elise where friends were made, trivia was played, and the string lights shone bright! 

Then, in the second episode of Money Month, Doree and Elise speak with Dana Miranda, a Certified Educator in Personal Finance (CEPF), personal finance journalist, and author of You Don’t Need A Budget. They discuss why budget culture is a parallel to diet culture, how having financial education doesn’t automatically level the playing field, and all the tenets of budget culture we have to unlearn in order to begin intuiti...

Elise starts the show with the stuff of nightmares (mostly kidding) and Doree shares a listener voicemail with a timely reminder. Then, listeners weigh in with their best hair oil recs, curly girl routines, and with advice to help Elise with Oscar’s puppy habits. 

To kick off Money Month, Doree and Elise bring on Reema Khrais, host of the Marketplace podcast This Is Uncomfortable. They discuss everything from why money is a fraught subject, especially in relationships, how to have conversations about it, and some practical takeaways to start building a good financial foundation.

Elise satisfies her stomach with Taiwanese food and Doree gives advice on puppydom before they hear from listeners about parenting and self-care, hair oil for curly hair, and the different forms meditation can take.

Doree and Elise talk to beloved former Forever35 co-host Kate Spencer! They get into it all — from strength training and her new sexy book All’s Fair in Love and Pickle Ball, to figuring out how to retire from podcasting and productivity. Plus, a delightful Costco segment for nostalgia’s sake.

Doree has tennis team gossip and Elise has the perfect New York spring trip. Then, listeners write in about how to find your professional spark after a layoff and the best tools for maintaining your bikini area, and also share their recs for summer tees, a hypoallergenic lipgloss, and weeknight cookbooks.

CW: This episode discusses depression and suicide 

Doree shares some of her sun protection style (think beekeeper) and Elise shares a story about her mysterious yard visitor. Then, they speak with author Arianna Rebolini about her latest book Better, what “better” really means when you have a history of depression and suicidal thoughts, her takeways on happiness and despair, and how the U.S. healthcare system, poverty, and mental health are all connected.

Doree and Elise discuss the latest release of Trader Joe’s mini tote bags, the perils of flying into Newark airport, and the difficulties of writing on spec. Then, they hear from listeners about why SPF isn’t just in all the skincare products, how dogs bring microjoys, and a callout for the perfect summer tee.

Doree and Elise speak with New York Times journalist Amanda Hess about her new book Second Life: Having a Child in the Digital Age, how online surveillance has permeated every aspect of womanhood and motherhood, and why community care is so crucial to being a good parent.

Doree and Elise share their fun weekends that didn’t totally go as planned — from a game of Werewolf with mom friends, to getting a hotel room (with points!) just to shower. Then, listeners send in their recent product & podcast recs. 

Money Month is coming soon! Send us your questions about money — what to do with, what to do when you don’t have it, how to budget it, or anything else on your mind — at (781) 591-0390, or at forever35podcast@gmail.com.

The unstoppable author and voting rights activist Stacey Abrams joins Doree and Elise to share her magnetic charisma and talk through the importance of pairing empathy with action, what it looks like to commit to the craft of imagination, and how to overcome fear in your daily life.

Doree shares the stress and success of Henry’s 6th birthday party with Elise before they hear from listeners about collecting art throughout their lives, a simple burnout prevention hack, and a call out for your favorite podcasts (besides this one).

Doree and Elise speak with journalist and cultural critic Sophie Gilbert about the prescient and important themes of her book Girl on Girl (out 4/29). They discuss her cultural history of the 90s through the 2010s, and what effect this period had on the women's movement and the momentum of feminism, the lasting influence of porn in shaping early aughts culture, and why the girl boss era was a scam. 

Elise raves about her Costco Vacation Package, and shares highlights from the family’s latest trip with Doree. Then, the hosts hear from listeners about taking to gardening (shout out to Fast Growing Trees!), the joy and gratitude of giving blood, and a way to encourage your kids to at least try the meal you’ve made for them.

Writer Annie Hartnett joins Doree and Elise to chat about why stickers work as a motivational tool whether your five or thirty-five ,why her latest book, The Road To Tender Hearts, is a road-trip novel, and the almost supernatural ability of our pets to understand our world better than us.

Doree and Elise share their recent travels and hear from listeners about more great places to find simple but delicious dinner ideas, million dollar ideas for free muggers and water bottle holders, and the shock of the Forever35 astrology signs missing from our guest roster.

Doree and Elise speak with culture journalist, editor, and author of Cults Like Us: Why Doomsday Thinking Drives America Jane Borden about how America’s earliest days make us uniquely susceptible to cult like thinking, the traits of individuals who join but are able to leave a cult later, and how social media has created a perfect environment for falling prey to the allure of charismatic leaders. Plus, Jane shares a surprising tidbit of her book that got left on the cutting room floor. 

Doree and Elise share their current fave prods as an old-fashioned Forever35 escape. Plus, the listeners shake up Doree’s Dinner Dilemma with so many great meal ideas!

Doree and Elise speak with Debbie Millman about learning how to garden and the steps that led to her latest book, Love Letter to a Garden, which features recipes from her wife Roxane Gay.  The design legend and podcaster also shares how she has learned to embrace growth through discomfort, the thrilling yet difficult moments of teaching, and the decision to just start something new, even if it means looking foolish.

Listeners tell Doree and Elise about great dinner recipe ideas for when you're in a dinner rut, their 5 year pandemic anniversary reflections, and how the past discussion on perfectionism resonated with them.

Celebrity makeup artist Rachel Goodwin is back to share how to keep your concealer from moving too much, how to decide which makeup brush to use, where to apply blush, how to create a beautiful natural glow with makeup, and much more!

Listeners call in to ask Doree and Elise more friendship month questions (keep ‘em coming!), the convo continues on what it means to learn new skills at mid-life, and why we all love Walter Goggins. 

Doree and Elise speak with Nichole Hill, the award-winning showrunner, audio producer and creator of the independent podcast Our Ancestors Were Messy. They discuss the history of Black newspapers, the lasting power of written gossip, why some of Nichole’s best memories of her dad are as a passenger in his car, and the reminder that it’s okay to be frivolous and romantic AND contribute to change.

Elise spontaneously goes to a K-pop concert and Doree has a lovely night in with a Walton Goggins show. They hear from listeners about diving deep into the back catalog of your favorite podcasts, hair products to help with hair loss, friends flaking at the last minute, and a message for the AI-curious.

Doree and Elise reflect on the five-year anniversary of Covid lockdown. Then, they invite Ash Perez (former BuzzFeed video star and current 2nd Try cast member) on to talk about his relationship to his father and masculinity, what his journey has taught him about the performance of gender, how he decides what information to share publicly and what to keep private, and what he’s doing to make sense of the news right now. 

Dor and E hear from listeners about their takeaways from friendship month (both the positive and the negative), why reaching out for connection is always a good thing, and therapy for therapists.

Doree and Elise speak with Olga Khazan, Atlantic writer and author of Me, But Better: The Science and Promise of Personality Change about how much of your personality is fixed vs changeable, the underrated but life-changing value of niceness, and a mindset shift to deal with the tumultuous times we’re living in.

Doree and Elise hear from listeners about something deep in the archives of Forever35, get more chocolate chip cookie recipes, a candle rec for clean-but-not-soapy- scented candles, and they take on some lingering friendship questions.

It’s the finale of friendship month, and Doree and Elise speak with return friendship expert Dr. Marisa Franco (author of Platonic: How the Science of Attachment Can Help You Make--and Keep--Friends).

They discuss how as you get older you raise the bar for friendship and focus on quality over quantity, giving your friends the chance to say “no” to you, navigating turmoil in your friendships by starting with curiosity, and why your friendships will really blossom when you stop predicting and start experiencing.

Modern Friendship author Anna Goldfarb returns to answer your questions about friendship! Anna discusses how to nurture old friendships, how to make “hanging out” more compelling, being careful about tallying “you vs them,” and more.

Doree and Elise speak with Kasley Killam, a leading expert in social health and author of The Art and Science of Connection: Why Social Health is the Missing Key to Living Longer, Healthier, and Happier. They discuss how an experiment in acts of kindness led to a lifelong interest in studying relationship building, how to balance being an introvert with your social health, why your social health and level of connection isn't constant (in a good way), and how to use a shared experience to build connection.

Doree and Elise answer listener questions about Elise’s new TED Talk and discuss Doree’s new advice column with Slate. And they share a special voice note from Elise’s daughter to answer a listener question about tween style!

Elise prepares for her birthday weekend in Mexico City and Doree witnesses the perils of rain in LA! Then, they invite Rhaina Cohen, author of The Other Significant Others, on to discuss why prioritizing friendship doesn’t mean being anti-marriage, the power of “just ask” in building your relationship with new and old friends, the balance of showing up for and leaning on your friends, and how to more actively invest in existing friendships and cultivate new ones.

Doree and Elise kick off friend week with an IRL hang (!) and talk about Elise’s coming birthday vacation and Doree’s recent Korean spa trip. Then, they hear from listeners about the environmental harms of chat GPT, delicious single serve chocolate chip cookie recipes, how to channel your nervous energy into action, and a non-food rec for Sam’s Club.

Friendship Month kicks off with Anna Goldfarb, author of Modern Friendship: How to Nurture Our Most Valued Connections.

Anna joins Doree and Elise to talk about what a wholehearted friendship means, how to determine the “about” of your friendships, why it’s okay for your friendships to remain more fluid as you become an adult, and how it’s okay to grow into (and out of) friendships gracefully. 

Listeners send Doree and Elise their news sources, how they’re keeping busy and proactive, drugstore skincare recs for the winter, and updates on Trader Joe’s. 

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Doree and Elise invite ex-Normal Gossip host Kelsey McKinney on to discuss her new book You Didn’t Hear This From Me: (Mostly) True Notes on Gossip, how understanding gossip is connected to Mean Girls, the Gaylor conspiracy and subculture, and the level of skepticism you should have based on the person you hear information from. 

Doree and Elise share their trusted local and national news sources and hear from listeners about the pride of free mugging, the Apple Health app reminder hack, and the Sam’s Club Chick-Fil-A dupe.

This episode contains a sponsored segment by Bausch + Lomb. Visit Xiidra.com to learn more.

Doree and Elise share the products that the young people in their life have influenced them to try. Then, they invite illustrator and writer Hallie Bateman on to discuss illustrating a book with her mother about getting through her divorce (What to Do When You Get Dumped), the joy of witnessing that immense emotional growth in her mom, what life is like as a working artist, being a mom of twins, and using wit and humor to get through darker times.

Dor and Elise catch up before hearing from listeners with advice for last week’s listener looking for the next step in their career, another all-in-one Ninja product you need to know about, who’s free bowling what and where, and a call out for some Sam’s Club recs!

This episode contains a sponsored segment by Bausch + Lomb. Visit KnowYourDryEye.com for more information.

Doree and Elise speak with University of Michigan Law School Professor and Strict Scrutiny podcaster Leah Litman about the incoming Trump Administration. She discusses how you don’t have to accept the inevitable, how you can politically “gum up the works” of government as a form of resistance, the top three things to look out for as the Trump Administration takes over, and a solution to being involved when you only want to curl up in the fetal position.

Doree and Elise discuss how to be a supportive sister as a new mom, the different ways being proud of yourself and feeling fulfilled can look as you age, and the staggering savings that pet insurance brought one listener. 

This episode contains a sponsored segment by Bausch + Lomb. Visit miebo.com to learn more.

Doree and Elise welcome activist, digital advocate, and OG podcaster Bridget Todd (Stuff Mom Never Told You, There Are No Girls On The Internet) to the show to speak vulnerably about the daily success of just putting one foot in front of the other, caring deeply about the state of the internet, understanding that your algorithm can be a spiraling echo chamber, and why she’s bringing reading and hyperlocal positive stories back to her life in 2025.

Doree and Elise return from the liminal period between holidays with helpful notes from listeners about pet insurance, a declutter calendar to edit your home, and the ingenious Ninja Foodi.

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From Taiwan travels and emergency NYE vet visits, to Hanukkah beginning on Christmas and sick partners, the end of 2024 left Doree and Elise with a lot to catch up on! They also discuss their goals for Forever35 in 2025, what you can look forward to hearing more of this year, and why January is probably the worst time to make resolutions.

Hi friends! We are off this week and will be replaying some of our favorite Forever35 episodes from earlier this year. This week, Tressie McMillan Cottom!

Doree and Elise talk to celebrated cultural critic, sociologist, and award-winning writer Tressie McMillan Cottom, who brilliantly deconstructs everything from Ozempic and Oprah to Bama Rush — and shows the interconnectedness of it all. 

Hi friends! We are off this week and will be replaying some of our favorite Forever35 episodes from earlier this year. This week, Glynnis MacNicol!

Doree and Elise chat with return guest Glynnis MacNicol (author of I’m Mostly Here to Enjoy Myself) about learning to enjoy herself now instead of later, the nuances of deciding what fruit best embodies you on a Parisian dating app, and discovering at 46 that everything we’ve been taught about our bodies is a lie. 

Doree and Elise hear from listeners about *that* Ninja Fryer, a music alternative to Spotify, how Elise hosts so many parties, and some great holiday Costco and Trader Joe’s recs.

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TW: This episode contains discussion about miscarriages.

Doree and Elise get ready to sign off for the end of the year before comedian and TV writer Jenny Yang joins them to discuss creating vision boards and journals after experiencing extreme burnout, the importance of having friends you can bounce your thoughts off of, and why feeling like you are part of a community is a form of resistance in America.

Doree and Elise get an update from the listener who now regularly sees the free bowler. Then they talk through the practice of embracing “microjoys,” or small pleasures, and take a walk down early aughts gadget memory lane before sharing a few more gift recs for the foodie and the kids in your life.

Celebrity makeup artist Rachel Goodwin is back to answer your questions! Rachel takes on everything from which “clean” products she recommends, how to best apply concealer under your eyes, and how to update your approach so you don’t look like you learned to wear makeup in the late 1900s. 

Listeners share a jaw-dropping free-bowl sighting, divergent takes on the Trader Joe’s hair serum, and more midlife pivots with Doree and Elise. Plus, the romance author who called in last time unmasks themselves!

For their final Midlife & Menopause Month episode, Dor & Elise interview Dr. Arianna Sholes-Douglas, author of The Menopause Myth: What Your Mother, Doctor, and Friends Haven’t Told You About Life After 35. They talk about how to approach a doctor about a discussion about perimenopause, the great (and some not-so-great) things to look out for in this transitionary period, and what’s really going on with hormone therapy.

We hope you enjoyed Midlife & Menopause Month! We’ll have more themed episodes coming in the new year.

Dor & Elise present the Forever35 Gift Guide of 2024! From kitchen to kids and sports to travel, find the gifts for everyone on your list.

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Doree and Elise invite sex therapist and menopause expert Emily Nagoski on the pod to discuss why just breathing in and out is her current self-care, how to better understand what happens to our bodies during perimenopause, what to ask a doctor and when, and the importance of the lens with which you’re looking at your partner. 

Doree and Elise get some clarity on which hair product to avoid and hear from listeners about the joy of the F35 archive and leaning into being nice to the people around you this season. 

Midlife and menopause month continues with the witty and wise Caroline Paul. The adventurer and author encourages us to add outdoor adventure to our lives, whether its birding or boogie boarding, how the outdoors is really for all of us - not just rich white folks, and the power of upending a single belief and the force it holds over your life. Plus, Elise becomes ordained to perform a wedding ceremony and Doree has a satisfying aha moment.

Doree and Elise chat about how Midlife & Menopause Month is going and hear from listeners about Elise’s “Deck the Balls” party, making new Thanksgiving traditions, and a travel prod hack to make life easier.

Doree and Elise hear from listeners about the joy of having a community in the wake of the election. Then, Reshma Saujani, founder of Girls Who Code and Moms First, joins them as part of their Midlife & Menopause series to talk about how she’s going through perimenopause, changing what authority and leadership looks and sounds like, the childcare crisis in the United States, and where women go from here. 

Listeners write in looking for a dupe, some hot (but maybe not-so-hot?) takes about Costco, a comfy but classic shoe rec, and a useful tip for incorporating strength training into our every day lives.