Futuresteading

Futuresteading

By: Jade Miles

Language: en-us

Categories: Society, Culture, Personal, Journals

This is a conversation about the future. About creating a culture that values tomorrow. We reckon a slower, simpler, steadier existence is the first step - one that’s healthier for humans and the planet. We call it Futuresteading. Each week we chat to community builders, ritual makers, food growers, health wizards and environmental wisdom keepers, gathering practical advice and epic solidarity - so we can all nut this thing out together. Join our nitty, gritty, honest and hopeful convo every Monday during our 16 episode seasons. Support the pod by shouting us a cuppa >>> buymeacoffee.com/futuresteading

Episodes

Ep 210 The Togetherness Blueprint. Multigenerational life with Jeremy Pryor
Dec 14, 2025

Step into the deeper currents of what it means to build a life that lasts beyond a single generation. Explore multi-generational living not just as a practical arrangement, but as an antidote to the fragmentation of modern society—a way of returning to rootedness, continuity, & shared purpose. Reflect on the power of family rituals, enduring traditions & the slow transmission of wisdom that strengthens the family ecosystem.

Through personal stories & cultural insight, Jeremy reveals how honouring ancestral lineage has cultivated belonging & identity, and how intentional gatherings have helped reweave the connections frayed by hyper-individualism. Jeremy speaks to the be...

Duration: 01:01:08
Ep 209 Jamin Heppell - Lessons from the Mountains: Resilience and Leading with Conviction
Dec 07, 2025

In this episode, we sit down with Jamin Heppell to dive into the edges where personal growth, leadership, and nature all meet. We talk about what it means to move through fear, to listen to our intuition, and to find clarity in the moments that challenge us most. Jamin opens up about his own life initiations, the experiences that have shaped who he is and how he leads and shares the practices and rituals that help him stay grounded and resilient. Together, we explore what heart-centered leadership really looks like in today’s world, and how the mountains — both lite...

Duration: 00:53:30
Ep 208 Manda Scott - Pondering how we became accidental gods of this land & seeking connection to it with humility not control
Nov 30, 2025

Summary
If we are going to lay the foundations of a world we are proud to leave as a legacy we need to be comfortable to move into elderhood - for Manda Scott this is about getting comfortable with emergence and asking the living web “what is mine to do”.
 We’ve created a world where separation, anxiety & powerlessness have become the underlying defaults instead of a world of security, belonging & agency. We are addicted to dopamine &exist in a world of trauma rather than initiation so how are we to rewrite these patterns?
By list...

Duration: 01:11:41
Ep 207 Tammy Huynh - Plants CAN be Companions and bridge us back to who we are!
Nov 23, 2025

As a new Mum, living in a new home, having just released a new book and fertilising the idea of reconnecting back to her Vietnamese heritage Tammy Huyhn is a light hearted joy.

This lass knows a thing or two about plants - you may have seen her face on ABC's Gardening Australia and she runs her own hortucultural business Leaf an Impression which delivers garden talks and workshops...she has even been awarded horticulturist of the year! 

Todays conversation though, mostly asks "how does gardening bridge us back to our ancestral roots and remind u...

Duration: 00:37:19
Ep 206 James McLennan From Playground to Paddock: Farming the Future of Education by creating 2.2 kms of garden bed in 24 hours
Nov 09, 2025

Come with us for a wander through the fertile grounds of possibility with James McLennon, the visionary behind Farm My School. Todays ep unearths how a patch of school soil can become so much more than a playground—it can nourish bodies, minds, and entire communities. From the thriving farm at Bellarine Secondary College to the ripple effects it’s having on students, neighbours, and local food systems, James shares how education and regeneration can thrive side by side. This is a story about reimagining our schools as living, breathing ecosystems—places where compost become...

Duration: 00:50:06
Ep 205 Dalee Ella - Connecting Humanity to the Inward and Outward Energies of Creativity
Nov 02, 2025

Jade and Dalee wander through the tender terrain where creativity, womanhood, and everyday life meet. Speaking openly about the way our inner cycles shape what we make and how we show up in the world — and how hard it can be to hold space for both art and livelihood.

Together they explore the slow evolution of Dalee’s creative path, the courage it takes to collaborate, and the quiet emotional work of home-schooling while running a small business. Their chat drifts into community — the messy beauty of shared living in an intentional community, the texture that n...

Duration: 02:07:49
EP 204 The Passage of Self: Dance, Grief, and Heart Wisdom with Eclectica (Demi Lee)
Oct 26, 2025

In this episode, Demi Lee takes us deep into the story of Eclectica — a movement, a community, and a living expression of embodiment and transformation. Together, we explore how dance becomes a language for healing, how grief can serve as an elder and sacred teacher, and how true empowerment begins with self-responsibility.

Demi shares the evolution of Eclectica from a creative experiment into a profound rite of passage — one that invites people to come home to their bodies, their emotions, and their truth. Through honest reflections on community, relationships, and heart-centered living, this conv...

Duration: 01:08:00
Ep 203 Meg Ulman - The Beautiful Weight Of Living a Neo Peasant Life
Oct 19, 2025

In this conversation, Jade sits down with Meg Ulman (sadly not in person) — heart led writer, mother, educator, maker & one part of Artists as Family — to unpick what it really means to live on your own terms.

They trace the winding road toward a neo-peasant life — one defined less by nostalgia & more by intention. They talk about living with a fundamental trust in yourself to make decisions, parenting within community & the grit & grace of staying true to your values.

Meg describes herself as cash poor but time rich, together they explore what that trade-off really feels...

Duration: 01:09:41
Ep 202 Navigating community - Life in an eco village with Suzie Brown
Oct 12, 2025

What does it really look like to live inside the dream of community? To share walls & gardens, decision-making & dinner tables — & to raise children in a village that actually lives its values?

In this conversation, we sit down with Suzie Brown, long-time advocate for sustainable living & proud resident of the Narara Eco-Village. Suzie opens the gate & lets us wander through the realities of intentional community life — from the joy of shared purpose & spontaneous connection, to the inevitable challenges of governance, regulation & difference.

She shares how Narara’s unique decision-making structures help navigate confli...

Duration: 01:05:01
Ep 201 Tim Pilgrim - Creating Wild Spaces: The Art of Natural Design & The Interplay of Landscape & Storytelling
Oct 05, 2025

Today we wander into the layered world of Tim Pilgrim—a landscape architect and gardener who sees soil, water, and wildness as teachers. Tim invites us to connect with the land rather than control it, to design gardens that honour both human need and ecological integrity.

Together we explore the art of observation and the quiet discipline of water management, learning how these practices build truly sustainable landscapes. Tim shares how gardens evolve over time, shaped by climate change and by the gentle hands—and sometimes heavy footprints—of people. We tackle the prickly debates too: lawns that d...

Duration: 00:59:00
Ep 200 Sarah Firth - The Polyhuman Experience: Embracing Complex Curiosity as a Catalyst for Connection
Sep 28, 2025

Today we wander into the wild tangle that is Sarah Firth’s world—a place where curiosity is currency and difference is pure gold. Sarah calls herself a polyhuman, and you’ll feel why as she opens up about neurodivergence, the grit and grace of making art, and the small, daily rituals that stitch meaning into our messy lives.

This is a conversation about courage and kindness, about owning our impact while staying tender enough to connect. It’s an invitation to question the systems around us, take responsibility for the ripples we make, and revel in the glor...

Duration: 01:09:30
Ep 199 Debra Silverman - Understanding Nature Through the Four Elements & Knowing 'The Angels Aren't Having Orgasms!
Sep 21, 2025

Summary

Today we slip into a cosmic campfire chat with Debra Silverman based in Colorado—where psychology shakes hands with the stars & the four elements (wind, earth, fire and water) become our guides. Debra’s journey weaves scepticism with wonder, showing how astrology (despite its esoteric nature can actually ground us in community and help us really see ourselves through practical, lived experience.

Together Jade & Debra dig into the pull of ritual & nature, the strange hum of technology in our relationships, & the quiet wisdom our elders carry. It’s a conversation that asks us to...

Duration: 01:03:06
Ep 198 Stephen Jenkinson -The Mother of a Culture, When You’re Asked to Make it "Real"
Sep 14, 2025

In this episode, we welcome Stephen Jenkinson—writer, teacher, storyteller, and founder of the Orphan Wisdom School. Stephen is known for breaking open the marrow of language and returning it in all its poetic weight. His work on elderhood, grief, dying wise, and the making (and unmaking) of culture has touched people all over the world.

His newest book, Matrimony: Ritual, Culture, and the Heart’s Work, takes on what he calls the “mother of a culture”—the wedding. In a time when so many weddings risk becoming performances, spectacles, or non-events, Stephen asks: what would it mean to ma...

Duration: 01:05:29
Ep 197 Gregg Muller - Creating Climate Resilience with Community Saved Seeds!
Sep 07, 2025

 Lets dig into the quiet, radical world of seeds with plant breeder & seed keeper Gregg Muller. Gregg’s journey has been about more than growing food — it’s about safeguarding diversity, resilience & flavour in the face of a changing climate. From his work on the Cross Hemisphere Dwarf Tomato Project to the community breeding groups he champions, Gregg shows how ordinary gardeners can become part of something much bigger: shaping plants that thrive where we live. We talk about the simple, practical steps of saving seed, but also about the deeper shift in perspective — moving away from industrial uniformity & back towa...

Duration: 00:42:17
Ep 196 Angela Clifford - Long Term Thinking in a Short-Term World, Empowering Food Citizens for Change
Aug 31, 2025

 Today we’re pulling up a chair with Angela Clifford — farmer, food activist & founder of Eat New Zealand — to talk about the stuff that really matters: food, culture, community & the future our kids will inherit. Together we wander through big ideas & very real feelings — from the responsibility of feeding a nation to the grief & hope that come with caring deeply for place. Permaculture principles, family dynamics, natural systems & the wisdom that lives beyond humans all get a look-in. This one’s about finding steadiness in uncertain times & remembering that the way we eat, grow & gather can be an anchor for resilie...

Duration: 00:55:41
Ep 195 Jaclyn Crupi - Getting messy outside for birds, bees & butterflies (+ anything else that wants to move in!)
Aug 24, 2025

 Spring is peeking through here in Southern Australia, and today we’re heading into the garden — but not just for veggies. We’re going a little wild for the birds, bees, and butterflies. Our guest, Jaclyn Crupi, lifelong gardener and many times author, grew up with her nonna and nonno’s hands-in-the-dirt wisdom. These days, she’s transformed her patch beyond just a productive veggie garden into a thriving sanctuary that welcomes not just humans, but insects, birds, fungi — the whole backyard ecosystem. Whether you’ve got a big block, a small suburban yard, or even just a balcony, Jaclyn’s here t...

Duration: 00:55:52
Ep 194 Jade Miles - Building Small Circles & Shared Rituals To Change the World
Aug 17, 2025

It’s about time Jade Miles takes the mic so we can pick her brain and her heart about ‘huddling’ for the future of all! We chat about what is our ecological work to do, our soul work to do as we come together in all kinds of communities.

We decolonise our minds by moving into our hearts: away from extraction and spectacle, toward opulence of the ordinary- soil under nails, soup shared warm, shared conversations around a fire, singing songs as ritual. We name the practices that bind us: huddle, muddle, cuddle- messy, tender, and profoundly effect...

Duration: 01:02:51
Ep 193 Tanned Hides, Bark Brews & the Wild Within - Will & Eva from Wild Beings
Aug 10, 2025

Ever wondered what lines a deer’s stomach? Or how to turn bark into tincture—or tea into a gateway to your primal self?

Meet Will and Eva: barefoot, leather-clad rewilders who traded ‘normal’ for firelight, foraging, and full-blown nature immersion. I first met them in a smoky tent at the Off Grid Living Festival—tea in hand, bird calls in the air, and stories thick as eucalyptus sap.

Since then, they've taught rewilding workshops at Black Barn Farm and reminded us all just how useless strategic planning feels when someone’s casually tanning a hide next to...

Duration: 00:59:29
Ep 192 Jane Hillard "Enoughness" - Do you have it? - Winter Windbacks 2025
Jul 27, 2025

 When did having twin basins and three toilets become the norm?  As an architect who bucks the idea of bigger-is-better Jane Hilliard uses the principle of “Enoughness” as a design principle for the built environment. Its better for both the natural environment and the people around us. It allows us to be rich in ways that matter instead of buying into the idea that grandeur will make us happy.
For her 'enough' looks like going out into her  backyard supermarket garden  picking something and cooking it. Its also having outdoor space & quiet, unstructured time to think. Guided by the prin...

Duration: 00:52:09
Ep 191 Helena Norberg Hodge - Localism that Heals & Creates Oneness - Winter Windbacks 2025
Jul 20, 2025

Helena Norberg-Hodge is a writer, filmmaker, international speaker and leader of the global localisation movement. 

She’s been promoting an economics of personal, social and ecological well-being for more than 40 years, and is one of the world’s most treasured environmentalists and visionaries.

Today Helena pulls up an apple crate at the Futuresteading campfire to share stories from Ladakh, lament the madness of globalization and light the way back (and forward) to oneness.

We discuss the true wealth of traditional societies, the dangers of scale and tech solutions, pressure to conform to a...

Duration: 00:55:13
Ep 190 Rosemary Morrow - A Lifetime of Global Permaculture Service - Winter Windbacks 2025
Jul 13, 2025

Summary
Akin to a cuppa while flicking through photo albums, this conversation is rich with stories of her lived experiences  across every continent &  through many decades. This wisdom holder has offered her life in service  by knowledge sharing. A much respected permaculture educator, her foundation is science based, heart felt & relational in every way. Her practical generosity has contributed to refugee camps in war torn countries and her commitment to empowering communities without becoming a guru  is refreshing. 

Links You'll Love

The Earth Restorers Guide - Rosemary Morro...

Duration: 00:47:15
Ep 189 Joost Bakker - The Darling of Waste Free Living - Winter Windbacks 2025
Jul 06, 2025

We know that Western culture lives excessively, endlessly seeking the newest and shiniest new thing.  Its shocking that 40% of our food goes to waste, one third of our building materials are never even used. But this way of life will be short lived and thankfully being wasteful is now  on the nose and cool cats like Joost are making waves by making junk UBER COOL. What can we do to create a new way forward in what he describes as the most exciting time in human history?

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Duration: 00:29:46
Ep 188 Nat Wilmott - Living the Dream, Her story! Winter Windbacks 2025
Jun 29, 2025

This homeschooling mum of three spends her days foraging, growing, swapping & upskilling all in the name of continuing to live her version of normal in an abnormal world where we've lost touch with our food, medicine & the natural world.
After taking her time with her families transition to this way of life, her newfound confidence & conviction ensures she won't be told what to do by big business or have her opinions changed by corporations. Although not all plain sailing-she shares valuable insights into the bumpy but ultimately rewarding path she's been on.
"Living in a cushioned culture...

Duration: 00:56:50
Ep 187 Sarah Wilson - Having less F%$# s to give - Winter Windbacks 2025
Jun 22, 2025

Described as  'all striving no arriving…' Sarah thrives in the early stages of a movement - feeling her way into the zeitgeist of now & unpacks in ways that resonate with reality.  Ultimately driven by curiosity & shunning growth,  she talks about Wild Activism  as a responsibility of the current age with agency in tact. 

Having less fucks to give about speaking her mind & with a bipolar superpower, she shares how she is unlearning & returning to humanity to navigate out of a spiritual PTSD,  simultaneously saving but living the fuck out of  life’, and why she is off to Paris Duration: 00:53:48

Ep 186 Cade McConnell - Living With Intention, Initiation & More Earth In The Kitchen
Jun 08, 2025

Fire has long been a revered force,  respected for its ceremonial holding, practical contribution to feeding, sterilising, warming, lighting and yarning around. These days though, few of us interact with fire regularly despite it connecting us to our ancestors and gently reminding us of what it means to be human. 

 Off the back of tragic circumstances when he was just 16, todays guest Cade Mcconnell, intentionally side stepped the drug fuelled, party filled scene that often lures late teens early 20 year men and instead went in search of what it meant to be a man. He found instead, cer...

Duration: 00:58:40
Ep 185 Elspeth Hay - Feeding Ourselves With Trees + Singing Our Way to a New Culture
Jun 01, 2025

"Living as modern humans we are disconnected, out of place and don't belong in the same way as other species"

"If you're feeling called to do something larger than you - you should follow that"

Summary

Todays guest Elspeth Hay experienced a rewriting of all she had known when when one day she was grappling with the frustration that the area she calls home didn't have the ability to create more small scale, localised food systems because they were landlocked by the ocean and surrounded by established Oak forests. Until one...

Duration: 01:01:05
Ep 184 Simon Mustoe - Surviving The Next 100 Years by Valuing A Whale At $3 Million Dollars
May 25, 2025

“We’ve lived fantastic lives because we’ve taken for granted the ecological damage we’ve done. Now we owe a debt"

Well respected ecologist Simon Mustoe has written a new book How to Survive the Next 100 Years: Lessons from Nature. In its pages there's a definite sense of encouragement because ultimately Simon believes we are already seeing indicators of monumentally important shifts in our relationship with earth. 

In todays conversation we tackle the dichotomy between wisdom & knowledge, deciding that “It doesn't necessarily mean how much you know - if you don't have the wisdom to interpre...

Duration: 00:59:33
Ep 183 Matt Defina - Rethinking Purpose: From Lost to Liberated
May 18, 2025

Have you ever had that moment where you question - but there MUST be another way?

Well in this conversation, Hayley and Matt Defina explore the journey of finding purpose and reprogramming our outdated ways or patterns to reach a more meaningful way of living.

Matt shares the importance of emotional expression in mental health and his personal experiences that led him to create Another Way, a company focused on intentional living. They discuss the societal pressures surrounding purpose, the impact of environment, and the need for self-care amidst life's demands...

Duration: 01:00:32
Ep 182 Elle Jenkins - Creating a 'Seed to Packet' Business with Australian Medicinal Herbs
May 11, 2025

Do you fancy the idea of growing your own medicinal herbs for tinctures & tea Todays guest Elle from Australian Medicinal Herbs took the plunge following a career sidestep when she was diagnosed with PTSD & replaced a 17 year career in the police force with a seed to packet business that slowly but surely healed her trauma, engaged her girls & now helps people all over Australia. Today she shares her unfolding story  & offers practical guidance & wizened encouragement to get growing in order to take agency of your own health through the potency of healing herbs.

“Life is change - all...

Duration: 00:55:40
Ep 181 Anna Nanna - EVERYDAY Permaculture for EVERYBODY!
May 04, 2025

Rarely in life do you meet someone who moves through the world in complete service of others, filling their cup through small but regular actions that offer the world gifts of time, seeds, toilet paper, knowledge. Todays guest is just this person, intrinsically generous…even going so far as to say she stores her excess yields in other humans which in turn proliferates the generosity bug & reap returning acts of kindness as gifted lemon slice & moving boxes.

Today we get to the bottom of what it looks like to blend permaculture principles into your life as a li...

Duration: 00:59:29
Ep 180 Nic Warner - Awakening Through Rites of Passage & Relationships
Apr 27, 2025

"We live in a society where uninitiated men grow up"

In this conversation, Hayley and Nick Warner explore the profound themes of transformation, relationships, and the importance of rites of passage in personal growth. They discuss the challenges of authenticity, the journey back to self, and the cost of inauthenticity in life and relationships. Nick shares insights on the significance of responsibility in relationships, the role of fatherhood as a rite of passage, and the necessity of returning to the heart in a society driven by the mind. The dialogue emphasises the importance of community, mentorship, and...

Duration: 00:58:33
Ep 179 Adrian Black - Creating Community Via a State of Enquiry & Raising the 'Numbness' Bar
Apr 21, 2025

"What would it mean for us to start asking questions via embodied feelings rather than spreadsheets & rational outcomes…turn off our head and turn on our belly."

“You don’t build communities you build relationships - communities build themselves”

Adrian Black is fresh off the plane from 5 weeks of living in an intentional community - a program designed to create a transformative culture. He shares his experience of transferring from being a series of individuals operating in cohesion of each other to operating as a whole via emotional release ceremonies with tears, grief, joy, laughter & dancing...

Duration: 01:20:09
Ep 178 Hilary Giovale - Becoming a Good Relative , Ancestral Alters & Learning to Let Our Tears Fall
Apr 13, 2025

“Those who have descended from the colonisers, we carry privilege but we also suffer the need to apologise” 

Landscapes can etch into your very being & create a remembering. Making us feel whole & reminding us that we are just a thread in the complex web of the natural world. While somewhat insignificant your thread has a role to play as a relative to the threads it lies next too. The way we all interact with each other - both human and other than human, will be our making or our undoing.

Hilary Giovale, author of “becoming a good...

Duration: 00:55:58
Ep 177 Dan Kittredge - Redefining Wealth From Cash to Culture
Apr 06, 2025

“How we raise our children is facilitating a denaturing of our human-ness. The opportunity is to be centred within & rebuild our culture” 

Dan Kittridge is the bare footed gent who coined the term Nutrient density off the back of his dao-ist strategy to create a life that afforded him the time & space to be at home with his young family, living simply with just 10k per year on the land.

Over the next 20 years he became clear that his role was simply to serve & that it's not his job to know what he's doing or attem...

Duration: 01:03:48
Ep 176 Alice Irene Whittaker - Finding Seeds of Presence In The Woods
Mar 31, 2025

"I could live a lifetime here and still be learning  - it’s a relationship - the greatest relationship of my life"

Alice Irene Whitaker lives in a small cabin in the woods, is a mother of three, an author of the book “Homing" and host of the  'Reseed podcast, which is about rebuilding our relationship with nature.

Surrounded by creek, meadow, and forest, Alice Irene began a new lifelong journey of repairing her fractured relationship with both herself and the natural world. Dismantling a history of anorexia, obsessiveness, and workaholism, she decided to sto...

Duration: 00:48:54
Ep 175 Andrew Skeoch - Nature’s Symphony, A Journey Towards Deep Listening
Mar 23, 2025

"We need to cultivate a culture of listening in society." But what does it truly mean to listen?

In this episode, we delve into the profound impact that sound can have on our lives as we speak with renowned sound recordist Andrew Skeoch. With his expertise in capturing the essence of nature through sound, Andrew shares his journey of deep listening, the importance of empathetic listening, and how it connects us to the natural world and one another.

Andrew, the author of Deep Listening, records breathtaking natural habitats from across the globe which...

Duration: 01:10:23
Ep 174 Claire Taylor - The Scottish Storyteller Connecting Is To Our Farmers
Mar 17, 2025

Claire is a multi generational Scottish beef farmer who says 'Ag has potency and potential to be a catalyst on the front line of climate catastrophe'.

As a Nuffield scholar 'exploring the scrutiny being placed on agriculture and how perceptions are changing', she embarked on a world research tour. While travelling, she fell in love with an Australian lad & now finds herself living in rural NSW. So after establishing a strong journalism career steeped in trust & long held relationships on home turf, she now finds herself on this wide brown land in the heat of summer without...

Duration: 00:58:37
Ep 173 Fleur Chambers - Riding the Waves of Life w the Essence of Presence
Mar 10, 2025

"Creativity is a life force - the universe is inherently creative - once we realise it's not ours - it takes the ego out of it & encourages all of us to utilise it as a gift for the greater good"

Fleur Chambers is a best selling author, mama, philanthropist & of course a master meditator. Actually she is the creator of the free meditation app: The Happy Habit.

Her post partum experience was the catalyst for seeking another way of being in the world & now she positions meditation as something much larger than just supporting the...

Duration: 00:58:11
Ep 172 Valerie Ringland - Indigenous Wisdom Healing
Mar 02, 2025

"The deepest trauma is disconnection from country."

What does it truly mean to heal? How can we reclaim our ancestral wisdom and break free from patterns of diseased thinking?

In this episode, we sit down with Valerie Ringland, a powerful voice in the world of Indigenous healing and restorative justice. Born on traditional Shawnee land in the U.S. and now living on Yuin Country in far southern NSW, Valerie brings a unique blend of Indigenous knowledge, and Western healing practices to her work. She’s the author of the tr...

Duration: 00:59:18
Ep 171 Megan Dalla Camina - Empowering Women to Rise!!
Feb 24, 2025

Megan has made it her life work to bring the voice of the feminine into our stories, workplaces, communities & ultimately our culture. Ensuring they are heard & have agency to do what we do so well - be women with feminine traits which are celebrated & valued. You'll be delighted to hear its not about minimising the power of men but allowing women to meet them in a place that they have long relished and together they can create a world no longer dominated by the patriachy.

 Navigating a hard fought journey of finding her purpose & then having the c...

Duration: 00:49:29
Ep 170 Jason Fox - Casting Wizardry Spells On a Path For Humanity
Feb 17, 2025

 Its not every day you talk with a flaming locked, beard faced wizard. This one sees through the illusions of modernity & revels in an oscillating state of making progress through decay while genuinely attuning to the living systems in order to see our dire reality. 

He attempts to embody our meta crises & seeks insights outside of mere numbers by going into the woods to 'just be'...and perhaps along the way he will experience a physiological quickening that offers hope.

He sees an undercurrent of people returning to ambiguity - warm provocations with ro...

Duration: 01:07:51
Ep 169 Hayley Jessup - Stories From The Heart to Kickstart Season 11
Feb 09, 2025

Meet Hayley - the whizz who usually sits in the editing suite of the Futuresteading pod  is in the hot seat today...and a few other days actually...todays episode is the chance to get to know the voice behind a mini series within this season of the futuresteading pod we are calling Stories from the heart. Hayley has been the producer on the pod for the last 6 seasons and now we are introducing her to this side of mic. You'll love her!

From remote Alaskan cottages to inner city haunts, Hayley Jessup has been learning to l...

Duration: 00:52:00
Ep 168 Tyson Yunkaporta - The real economy of mutual aid & LORE - Summer Days Throwbacks 2025
Feb 02, 2025

Tyson Yunkaporta is an Apalech man who is an academic, researcher arts critic & father. He is also the author of Sand Talk,  an extraordinary reading experience.  Like many of Australia’s First Peoples, he has a complex identity and history but it's this that gives him authority to write and speak in a way which connects the wisdom of the past to the needs of the future. 

The way he thinks demands a longer term perspective.  He is both philosophical and practical,  compassionate yet realistic. He is filled with an other-worldly understanding of humanity.  In this conversation he urges...

Duration: 00:59:16
Ep 167 Becoming Creatures Of The Planet w Indira Naidoo - Summer Days Throwbacks 2025
Jan 26, 2025

Following the shocking & heartbreaking death of her younger sister Indira leant into grief with the help of the natural world. She formed a deep friendship with a tree, learnt the power of self trust & became conscious of death in a way that led her to see puddles as portals into another world.
Despite the genesis, this conversation is joyful & powerful.

Show Notes

 Forced  to be present - the pressure is off Living the now is how the body and mind forces you to be in grief"The ‘now’ is not muddied by the past or...

Duration: 00:46:34
Ep 166 Meg Berryman, regenerative wisdom birthed on the bathroom floor - Summer Days throwbacks 2025
Jan 19, 2025

If climate reports and dystopian vibes are getting you down, this conversation with Meg Berryman might just lift you (gently) from the tiles.

Meg is the host of the Regenerative Life podcast, where she holds activating and catalysing conversations about social change, sustainable business, holistic wellbeing, personal development and regeneration, creating ripples of change from the inside out.

She’s not only a brilliant interviewer, meeting mighty minds like Tyson Yunkaporta and Claire Dunn for the kinds of intellectual-yet-accessible chats that leave listeners awestruck, but a formidable thinker herself. 

We’re stoked to welco...

Duration: 00:56:17
Ep 165 Flora Fauna & Fungi w Dr Saphire McMullen-Fisher - Summer Days Throwback 2025
Jan 12, 2025

Catie chats with Dr. Sapphire McMullan-Fisher, an ecologist with a special interest in biodiversity conservation, particularly macrofungi and mosses.

Sapphire is a renowned scientific researcher, speaker, teacher and author with a knack for communicating fungi’s vital ecological roles — and why we should all pay a lot more attention to these remarkable, all-connecting entities.

She's is also a pretty radical member of the community here in Naarm/Melbourne, who last year let Catie + George transform her suburban backyard into a market garden through the Growing Farmers program. 

Wise, lively and friend of the fungi...

Duration: 00:59:19
Ep 164 Courtney Young - Changing The Last Local Food Frontier: Grain - Summer Days Thowbacks 2025
Jan 05, 2025

Do you know where your grain comes from... the farmers name... how they grow it? Woodstock flour are doing their level best to change the last frontier via the power of building relationships and connecting. Join Jade and Courtenay as they get gritty on grains and hear why we need to value its diversity and regionality just like  we do wine or cheese.

Links You'll Love!
Woodstock flour website
Food Connect in Brisbane
Open Food Network
Kirsten and Serenity Futuresteading Interview
Tivoli Road Bakery
Holistic Management
Riverina Organics G...

Duration: 00:57:30
Ep 163 Gabrielle Chan "We're all making it up" - Summer Days Throwback 2025
Dec 29, 2024

Recorded just days after the Federal election, Gabrielle Chan doesn't mince words - even when bone tired. A celebrated journalist with the Guardian, outspoken advocate for rural Australia and encourager of individual agency. "Our system has been made up by people and it can be rewritten by people". Lets not wait for Government to bring change but get active and organised now during times of abundance.

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Ep 162 Yarning w Mindy Woods From Karkalla on Sisterhood, Eldership + Native foods
Dec 15, 2024

Sign out of 2024 with this lively mastermind who suggests we take country into our body ! How?
Build routine around food,
Go barefoot to boost immunity, 
Stop seeing food as an inconvenience
Cook & eat with family often
Connect to the seasons of your life & the landscape
Create & share ceremony
Use food as a reconciliation tool

Belonging to a matriarchal community has unlocked knowledge handed down by oral stories, dance & art where kinship is more than human to human. Knowing your spirit belongs here is a gift we can all tap but w...

Duration: 01:00:58
Ep 161 Helen Rebanks - In Honour of the Farmers Wife!
Dec 08, 2024

What started as a throw away title while supporting her husband James Rebanks on his book tours, Helen Rebanks now proudly refers to herself as the farmers wife - a title that has very much become her identity & set in her a burning desire to write her own book about invisible women who’s stories are not told. As a mother of four & the backbone for their farming ventures in the Lakes District in the UK, Helen declares that the only people who work harder than farmers are farmers wives. I reckon she's right! She is a small in st...

Duration: 00:42:23
Ep 160 Carolyn Parker - Living Her Daydream, Waking up to the Sunshine & Pushing Past Deep Shyness
Dec 01, 2024

Summary
As a super quiet, observing kid, Carolyn often had her head in a book or went adventuring on her own. As an adult this lead to naturally hermitty behaviour before she actively decided to show others that shy characters can do bold & hard things too - especially if they take tea wherever they go. Now, woven into a well connected community she is more or less living her daydream of tea caravans, herbal gardens, her very own herbal medicine book & a throng of good folks around her.
She reveals that growing herbs was her...

Duration: 00:58:52
Ep 159 Manda Scott - Pondering how we became accidental gods of this land & seeking connection to it with humility not control
Nov 24, 2024

Summary
If we are going to lay the foundations of a world we are proud to leave as a legacy we need to be comfortable to move into elderhood - for Manda Scott this is about getting comfortable with emergence and asking the living web “what is mine to do”.
 We’ve created a world where separation, anxiety & powerlessness have become the underlying defaults instead of a world of security, belonging & agency. We are addicted to dopamine &exist in a world of trauma rather than initiation so how are we to rewrite these patterns?
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Duration: 01:12:19
Ep 158 Alice Zaslavski - Serving your 'A 'game with salad + learning English with Big Ted
Nov 17, 2024

Hungry?  How bout a salad…trust me, after todays convo, you’re going to want to eat salad for breakfast, lunch & dinner. Not just the limp lettuce & store bought dressing kind of salad but one that tickles all your gastronomic senses. Once you've been satiated the convo settle into really chewing on the realities of this high energy lass' day to day existence: her rituals,  her challenge to find the gaps to do the quiet things, learning to really be in the moment & finding her path to enoughness.

Alice Zaslavski has chatted with us on the pod before...

Duration: 00:51:16
Ep 157 Matilda Brown - When hard things fill your heart w joy & husbands make the best business partners
Nov 10, 2024

This is a pour-a-cuppa kinda convo - Matilda Brown is a rare kind-of open book where nothing is off limits and despite not actually being her friend you get the distinct feeling that you must be. 

Flipping a childhood acting career for a regnerative food business wasn’t part of her plan - actually nothing really is, this breath of fresh air claims to be “bumbling around with life, filling in time until she dies.” But her bumble is joyful & hopeful in the best way possible.

She & her husband Scott Gooding are the brains & brawn behind...

Duration: 00:58:48
Ep 156 Cynthia Jurs - Sacred Activism, Earth Treasure Vases & Combatting Atomic Bombs in your own backyard
Nov 03, 2024

Summary
Life is impermanent. Precious but not entitled to length. The past is behind us, the future is unknown & all we have is this moment. Our role is to meet the moment.
Being overwhelmed with the assignment of bringing healing & protection to the earth, todays guest looked to Gaia as the source of guidance towards effortless harmony. Easier said than done but she found that our cultural inclination to constant self referencing & focussing on I, Me, Mine was the limitation. 
Looking beyond the veil into another dimension & awakening her relationship to the earth allowed h...

Duration: 00:46:03
Ep 155 Shane Simonsen - Taming the apocalypse, exploring a post industrial world & maize making people mad
Oct 27, 2024

Summary
The age of short termism now dominates - Todays guest however takes long termism the way we all take breakfast (those not on a fasting regime anyway) Apparently he was born this way. 

In his recently released book Taming the Apocalypse he states that the only remaining sustainable resources after industrialisation runs its course will be biology & culture. To prepare for this time, Shane Simonsen has an exceptionally original approach to zero input, large scale farming & has committed his life's plan of living long enough to connect varieties of crops that have been s...

Duration: 01:11:50
Ep 154 Anisa Rogers & Michaela from the Degrowth Network - Downsizing for perpetuity in a new world!
Oct 21, 2024

Summary
In a world dominated by a striving for endless growth, it can be hard to see that while a drive towards money and individualism is great for the economy, it is fundamentally destructive for humanity, community & ecology. This conversation tackles us relearning our ability to grow our environment with each other & to meet our own needs rather than outsourcing to those who will make the divisions based on profit. It asks us to opt for less transactions & more relationships, it addresses the epidemic of loneliness and it settles on the idea that a little bit...

Duration: 00:59:10
Ep 153 Paulette Whitney - For the love of flowers, food & spring loaded seeds!
Oct 13, 2024

As a food grower, lover of the natural world, cook and wizened plant expert, todays conversation meanders between the veggie patch & the kitchen, the garden shed & the pickling shelf. 
A reverence for the food we eat was planted deep inside Paulette's young mind by a mother who shared her skills and passion which then carried her onto this trajectory of life where she experiences the world through her garden.
As founder and owner of Provenance Growers and now author she tells the story of where our food comes from, how it was grown and what nutrients it m...

Duration: 00:50:29
Ep 152 Satyajit Das - Is Modern Humanity just Neanderthals' living with smart phones?
Oct 07, 2024

This gent who goes by the name of Das is eccentric, passionate, articulate & intelligent so strap in for this fast paced, heady conversation framed through the lens of equal rights for species other than humans to the very resources we are destroying. His voice grins, setting a positive tone & his true love of the natural world is just a tad intoxicating.

We leap from the truth that adaptability trumps strength for resilience. We quip about how the finance sector is filled with animals,  we both agree that animals are more sensible than human beings - they don’t g...

Duration: 00:58:53
Ep 151 Charlie Showers - Regenerative farming as his laboratory for life + initiating boys into manhood
Sep 29, 2024

Meet Jades husband - Charlie Showers. Perched at the kitchen table, this  conversation is steered by questions received from listeners. For an oft reserved gent, Charlie emotionally opens the doors about why he leans into the 'uncomfortable' to realise his humanity, to the grief of facing his own mortality, taking his boys through rites of passage & why regenerative farming has been the perfect laboratory to spur his curiosity about systems, our connection to biological processes & being brave enough to do the opposite of what the mainstream insist on when fighting for a life of perpetuity for humanity.
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Duration: 01:14:06
Ep 150 Dani Wolff - Mashing together earth wisdom + mama wisdom
Sep 22, 2024

Dani Wolff is a roll-your-sleeves-up-&-get-shit-done kinda girl who oozes earth wisdom and mama wisdom but most of all she personifies what it means to be collaborative. From her years in an intentional community to  her globe trotting earth building projects and now her multi fingered prongs in collaborations that take her from  veggie gardens to matriessence mentoring  she shares a bagful of insights into how we can bring some of the ideological ideas to life in a way that can work for each of us wherever we live.

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Ep 149 Digby Hall - The power sits in the many so gather your crew!
Sep 15, 2024


No-one else is coming in to solve the human induced problems & it's not about us anymore - we all have a responsibility to do something  for the generations still to come
Digby Hall reckons that if joined together we have wisdom, integrity & immense power to bring change but we must learn how to self manage the whiplash of constantly changing environments  because its a forever 'whole' game, so this is our new normal and we have to be able to sustain our role in it.
Fundamentally climate change & climate action is a human issue but we do...

Duration: 01:02:34
Ep 148 Matthew Evans - The Man is Mad about Milk
Sep 08, 2024


MILK…despite the fact that 6 billion people on the planet drink it and we have been for 10,00 years, most of us rarely give it a moments thought. Todays conversation with Matthew Evans takes us swimming in vats of the stuff.

Milk looms large in our culture and it's complex, layered, nutritionally interesting and culturally rich. Milk doesn't just feed us - it affects the very way our DNA behaves, feeds your microbiome, speaks to brain health, beneficial to heart health. Fascinatingly, there's a two way communication between a mother and her baby which is pa...

Duration: 00:53:13
Ep 147 Hannah Churton - The Worm Monger, creating community over compost
Sep 01, 2024

How do you create community and influence people? Hannah Churton made friends over bucketloads of kitchen scraps and believes that compost can salve climate anxiety? It’s not simply the creation of black gold that returns the goods - it’s the strength and power in the community that has been built around it. Much  like a warm cuddle - just like this convo!

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Ep 146 Leah Rampy - The trees teach resilience - Beginning & ending in silence
Aug 25, 2024

"When did we start othering earth to be overused & under-respected"?
We humans are the younger brother & sister of other beings who have been here for longer than us & have more experience. Now it's time for humans to have humility, unlearn & relearn from those who haven't been so lured by the lux.
Storytelling stepping stones will help us move to that place but a good storyteller also requires a good listener & it can be hard to hear the trees over the noise. Words can also fail us when the emotion of what we are losing is...

Duration: 01:07:07
Ep 145 Powerful Regen-narration w words - Winter Windbacks 2024 Anthony James
Aug 11, 2024

As the host of the the 'regen-narration podcast, listening, learning and storytelling is this mans lens.  Join us in getting comfortable sitting in silence while we wait for the insights
With an intent for working collaboratively and creating a community of care, this conversation is flowing and abstract, reflecting on our life of fat, comfort and ease while we need to embrace the discomforts of our future - learning new skills to navigate a world without rose coloured glasses while maintaining action and hope that is meaningful and uplifting.

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Duration: 01:03:09
Ep 144 Alex Elliot the firecracker from Cornersmith defying perfection -Winter Windbacks 2024
Aug 04, 2024

Bugger off dogmatic rules - who wrote those anyway. Push off unfaltering sustainable existence - you're leave us feeling guilty. Shhhh up incessant Instagram perfection - it's not real!  Tune in to this fire cracker of fresh air to recalibrate your judgment beacon and give yourself a break while you learn to a make a difference in a way that works for you. Could that be quiet food related activism or perhaps sharing practical skills in your community, or waking up to the plastic explosion in our lives and actively curbing your contribution. Perhaps its pickling...everything in sight! W...

Duration: 00:46:57
Ep 143 Beaudy Miles an odd storyteller - Winter Windbacks 2024
Jul 28, 2024

Our most downloaded backyard adventurer is chatting with us again but this time with better sound and more sleep under his belt so  we are witness to a  more true version of this humorous, odd character.  A self titled 'polyjobist; a generalist at many things, he shares the challenge of writing a book after a decade in academia, worrying about breaking the law to make films and shares why he took up his granddads wood chopping axes despite his mediochre capability.
Our conversation is all 'Miles' - it follows tangents,   is really personal and stays true to his advi...

Duration: 00:51:20
Ep 142 Charlie McGee from Formidable Vegetable - Winter Windbacks 2024
Jul 21, 2024

Charlie Mgee -- permaculture troubadour and Formidable Vegetable frontman -- composes swingin' tunes on a ukulele that address climate change, food security and regenerative sustainable living.

From 'energy-descent electroswing' to 'post-apocalypso', his unforgettable music provides permaculture earworms that entertain and educate. Maybe you're humming one right now?

In this energetic convo, we quiz Charlie about the role of art and creativity in changemaking; how music has a knack for bridging gaps and delivering powerful messages through melody. Charlie talks about his childhood in the bush, his wandering spirit, what it's like living in a tiny...

Duration: 01:02:23
Ep 141 Claire Dunn - Rewilding our souls - Winter Windbacks 2024
Jul 14, 2024

What would it be like to rely solely  on yourself, lean into ecological literacy, to really notice the changing patterns of the season & offer yourself the time it genuinely takes to live intimately with the earth . Claire  tells of her pathway to  following a calling to initiation - a need to let her social identity rot away on the forest floor & go into a place of deep introspection. Spurred by a  primal knowledge that we are living in a world with a deficit in:  nature, elders, community, ritual & skills, Claire is rewriting her story & rebuilding the culture around her to be...

Duration: 01:00:06
Ep 140 Winter Windbacks Mara from Orto Farm - creating a village life of circularity and love
Jul 07, 2024

Today Jade sits down with one of those luminous beings who’s living like tomorrow matters with deep intention and integrity.

Mara of Village Dreaming and ORTO Farm near Daylesford shares stories from her slow food life and lyrical observations (to the tune of ‘riding a bike to work in the city is like experiencing a musical’) that’ll linger long after this convo wraps up.

Mara describes her Italian roots and being a waste renegade, the magic of WWOOFing and running a cooking school, wildlife corridors and messages to her 20 year old self.

It’s...

Duration: 00:58:25
Ep 139 Sadie Chrestman - Farm schools, sharing white goods & building bloody great partnerships
Jun 23, 2024

This episode is akin to being a fly on the wall as you overhear a convo…  a warm, convivial, personal conversation to round out season nine.
 Listening back, while editing - with the Sunday roast cooking - it felt intimate to be part of this natter between Sadie and Jade which was recorded in late Spring  art the end of their respective days. They poured themselves a glass of wine and hit the recording button. Neither were in the mood to touch on doom-dom so they intentionally avoided consumerism, capitalism and colonialism, but unpacked many a worthwhile morsel to he...

Duration: 00:47:43
Ep 138 Osprey Oriel Lake - The Story Is In Our Bones, Together We Will Rewrite It!
Jun 16, 2024

How do we become a life enhancing species?
How do we remember in our bones our earth lineage?
Osprey asks us to consider 'How are we each ‘efforting’ towards a different way of being?
 If you said Together...SNAP.
While acknowledging that we're each complicit in living & swimming in an extractive economy & extractive world - its about the way we navigate it.  In dismantling old oppressive systems that harm life instead of nurture it, we first need to acknowledge our diluted collective understanding that we're living relative and connected to the web of life and that w...

Duration: 00:47:12
Ep 137 Jane Stevens - By The Grace of Gaia Goes She!
Jun 09, 2024

 Jane Stevens  is passing on the knowledge from her lifelong poly passions of gardening, herbalism, astrology and moon cycles as a gift to the world in the from of a book  (one that carries a Chelsea green publishers mark on the spine & a Rosemary Gladstar forward no less).  This Wisconsin based wealth of other-worldly wisdom shares why writing a book in her mid 60s is the perfect time of pass such earthly wisdoms. She speaks of planting seeds according to the moon cycles - are you familiar with the moon cycles? Creating gardens according to the 7 body chakras, the  patte...

Duration: 00:47:22
Ep 136 Sarah Andrews - Huddling by design + doing what it says on the box
Jun 02, 2024

Sarah Andrews has this way of stripping back the noise & replacing hustle with humility. A gentle woman, who describes herself as '90% introvert', she has crated beautiful spaces by considering them her palette to tell stories  & then inviting in a global community of folk to share her special space.

The key, she says, to creating spaces that are warm, nurturing and supportive of the community they are designed to hold, is to be sure that “beautiful is not the ‘budget”.
“My plan was to teach a few what I knew and then go sailing but it didn't ha...

Duration: 00:46:36
Ep 135 Casper Ter Kuile - (rhymes with smile) - Ritual, relationship covenants & why we can practice sacred reading with any book
May 26, 2024

Summary:
 In a world of consumption & content this chat ponders which containers for connection are going to hold us in relationships that are strong enough to navigate sickness & health, vitality & misery & how we build bridges to thread our significant worlds into one place so we can be ‘whole’.  Over & above the individual, we ask ‘how do we build cultures where ‘welcome’ is the default & division is not normalised. 

Casper TerKuile  is an articulate, poetic communicator who believes that ritual holds the key for much of this transition work. Where we buck the system, going...

Duration: 00:58:44
Ep 134 Brenna Quinlan - Celebrities at funerals, shared mulberry trees & dried fruit for Halloween
May 19, 2024

 Illustrator extraordinaire is back to chat! Brenna's talent lies in taking hairy, complex systemic issues and distilling them into bite-sized, actionable messages using just her pencil (& of course her magnificent capacity for critical thought).  We check in with her  latest updates  from life on the road with her partner Charlie McGee touring with his band and they're latest project, building a strawbale small home in Denmark Western Australia.
We unpack why being a purpose-led creative who's her own boss can be tough but shine a light on the delight of living a life that is cobbled together with many...

Duration: 00:49:54
Ep 133 Billa - The Woman at the Wild School shares her earth wisdom
May 12, 2024

SHOW SUMMARY
Join Billa, co founder of the Wild School, as we navigate back into our custodial selves. Where we use head, hands & heart to rebuild the connective processes that help us become deeply connected people to place & each other. This process requires us to not only think but to really feel, 'It needs to be remembered in the body at a cellular level. “In our bones as women we have generations of wisdom & the sisterhood brings this to life”
'We are designed to live in tribal sized groups & to take care of country but we l...

Duration: 00:58:56
Ep 132 Jamie Loveday - Sowing seeds for food deserts in the city
May 05, 2024

The majority of us are living in cities, and the sad truth is that these highly inhabited hubs are food deserts.  Places where food certainty is uncertain and what we do have available is a rapidly homogenising food landscape. The Food Lab is a program based in Sydney and designed to find ways to bring people closer to the soil that grows our food. Creating networks that cross disciplinary boundaries and support the birthing of language and connection points for the influx of migrants unable to translate our food culture.

We chat about ways of introducing people f...

Duration: 00:51:43
Ep 131 Maria Konecsny - Nourishing Your Kinfolk
Apr 28, 2024

 Maria Konecsky refers  often to her ancestral memory.  For her the way back to those who came before her has been through food. She says “Our food lines, hold our story, no matter what it is, whether its pretty or ugly, grand or humble it holds richness and grit and love and loss” It’s such a beautiful way to unpack our heritage - through food, in her case it’s sometimes ugly food made with love by her OMA who instilled equal part ritual and boredom into her childhood in just the right doses.  

Wherever you are right no...

Duration: 01:01:16
Ep 130 Hannah Maloney - Love, Small Potato Fame & Putting Yourself in The Way of Opportunities
Apr 21, 2024

Join Jade and the tall, smiling pink haired  gem as she ponders the many right ways of doing things - when care, intellect & heart goes into the building of skills, earth care & people care we need to honour the effort which is more important than the approach taken. 
Learn why she actively puts herself in front of opportunities & why she uses her platform as an extension to her duty of care  - "Its not about me its about the issue”  

"While I have sadness in me about the heartbreaks happening across the world I choose to active...

Duration: 00:46:05
Ep 129 What shade of green are you? with Dr Kate Luckins
Apr 14, 2024

Dr Kate Luckins asks what shade of green are you? The answer is of little consequence and will most certainly ebb with the hokey poke of life - finding your own shade, in your own way is the secret…along with an audit or two of your cupboards, sheds, fridge and mind.  

With a doctorate in sustainability, this Dr knows a thing or two about how we can climb aboard the bandwagon and STAY ON, ultimately resulting in us living "More with Less (which is the name of her new new book) - as our own shade of...

Duration: 00:52:41
Ep 128 Kirsten Bradley Brings us back for season 9 - 'HUDDLE'
Apr 07, 2024

Kirsten Bradley is one half of permacultures favourite educators MILKWOOD and she joins us as our opening night (very early morning actually) star in the spectacular line up of season nine guests.

We've had her in our ears before but not since she crossed Bass Straight to set up home and release her new book. The Milkwood Permaculture Living Handbook

We delve into how she has built her Huddle in the southern most state and how she contributes to the mycelium  of community that will form what is ultimately needed in the coming 100 years of s...

Duration: 00:51:13
Ep 127 Catie Payne - Bookending 8 seasons of Futuresteading w her trademark wit, charm & oddball intellect
May 07, 2023

Remember this beautiful human? She spent some time in your ears way back in series  one & two before heading off for a life of adventure & learning in the intellectual home of permaculture.  Catie Payne is a courageous one-of-a-kind character full of love and laughter who challenges 'normal' and beats to her own drum.
Join us for this joyful, 'been-too-long-catchup between Jade & Catie & delve into the last two years of Catie's artistic, rewilding, permaculture filled days.

Show notes

Catie now lives at Melliodora permaculture working in exchange for food and accommodation...

Duration: 01:13:14
Ep 126 Ella Noah Bancroft - Dispossession, living an ancestrally connected life & finding your feminine power
Apr 30, 2023

Summary
"We’ve never been sicker as a species, we've never experienced such high levels of extinction and its time to look past the ‘machine that’s working’ and actively choose not to contribute to it. Instead, its time to share ancestral knowledge, naturopathy, movement & earth based skills with each other & the next generation and nod to our ancestors by learning the ways, diets and nutritional needs of our bodies.  Let us experience deep sorrow ahead of rejecting the mainstream colonised and capitalistic system and lets walk away from being a machine centred society so that it suppor...

Duration: 01:01:27
Ep 125 Jane Hilliard - "Enough-ness" do you have it?
Apr 23, 2023

When did having twin basins and three toilets become the norm?  As an architect who bucks the idea of bigger-is-better Jane Hilliard uses the principle of “Enoughness” as a design principle for the built environment. Its better for both the natural environment and the people around us. It allows us to be rich in ways that matter instead of buying into the idea that grandeur will make us happy.
For her 'enough' looks like going out into her  backyard supermarket garden  picking something and cooking it. Its also having outdoor space & quiet, unstructured time to think. Guided by the pri...

Duration: 00:52:09
Ep 124 Tammy White - The one woman farmer from Wing & a Prayer creating community wherever she goes
Apr 16, 2023

"Apple pie without cheese is like a kiss without a squeeze" and what's the point in that. Life as a shepherd in Vermont USA can be lonely but farm time provides opportunity for reflection & cup filling so there's more energy to give to community. "Although I don’t say no to help - I don’t let no help stop me" is the can-do attitude Tammy exudes not only for her sheep breeding but also her natural yarn dying & her intentional life which is deeply committed to her place in Southern Vermont where she likes to beat to her own...

Duration: 00:47:59
Ep 123 Megan Grant - Futuresteading artist following her gut + noticing the weeds at the service station
Apr 09, 2023


The talented Megan Grant bought the futuresteading book to life with her vibrant depictions of a seasonal, intentional and ritual rich life.  After a year of being asked, this introvert who dreams and thinks in colours and pictures  finally said yes to being interviewed. We chat about her intuitive approach to creativity, her deep need to keep trying despite making plenty of work that doesn't make her happy and how a magnificent collaboration with clothing brand Gormon came about - but why she rarely wears the pieces herself.

Show notes

Making art he...

Duration: 00:49:45
Ep 122 Hayley Morris - Leading the investment world away from extraction & into their hearts
Apr 02, 2023

SUMMARY
We need an economic system based on values and trust to see genuine change in this critical decade. This intuition led powerhouse is collaboratively leading the thinking for philanthropy  & impact investment to shift away from reductionist outcomes to  a 'relationship first' approach where she believes the place to begin is with inner work to determine  'who you are', 'what makes you brave' and 'where your voice strongest'

We’ve got the solutions but the human capacity to make this change is what needs to begin first. 

SUMMARY
Why its harder to give money...

Duration: 00:58:11
Ep 121 Nat Wilmott - Living the dream. Her story!
Mar 26, 2023


This homeschooling mum of three spends her days foraging, growing, swapping & upskilling all in the name of continuing to live her version of normal in an abnormal world where we've lost touch with our food, medicine & the natural world.
After taking her time with her families transition to this way of life, her newfound confidence & conviction ensures she won't be told what to do by big business or have her opinions changed by corporations. Although not all plain sailing-she shares valuable insights into the bumpy but ultimately rewarding path she's been on.
"Living in a cushioned...

Duration: 00:56:50
Ep 120 Just Collapse - The illusion of techno-solutions “We can’t swallow horses to solve this problem”
Mar 20, 2023


This conversation is difficult to process but important to hear.  It asks: "How does Socioecological justice prevail  in the face of an irreversible collapse"?

Its time to accept that infinite growth on a finite planet will be short lived and that those who have agency & privilege have much to do - in big or small ways 
 It’s hard to really accept collapse when we have a comfortable lifestyle but let's consider preparing while we still have abundance in our system. 

Show notes

A new form of activis...

Duration: 00:57:43
Ep 119 Sarah Wilson - Feeling through humanity's dissonance, humans hunger for hard work & avoiding the diet version of life
Mar 12, 2023

Described as  'all striving no arriving…' Sarah thrives in the early stages of a movement - feeling her way into the zeitgeist of now & unpacks in ways that resonate with reality.  Ultimately driven by curiosity & shunning growth,  she talks about Wild Activism  as a responsibility of the current age with agency in tact. 

Having less fucks to give about speaking her mind & with a bipolar superpower, she shares how she is unlearning & returning to humanity to navigate out of a spiritual PTSD,  simulteneously saving but living the fuck out of  life’, and why she is off to Paris Duration: 00:53:48

Ep 118 Ginny 1000 hours outside - Replacing Screen time with Green Time
Mar 05, 2023

What if all the memories you made as a kid had been replaced by screens? When an aha moment makes you realise that its time to reframe childhood and embrace an analogue life - one that stimulates creativity, imagination and experiences that instill a need to fight for the natural world over technification.   With a biological need for at least 3 hours outside every day...the time to replace screen time with green time is now.

Show notes

Feeling like she was failing as a mum
Breaking the cycle of raising children on f...

Duration: 00:50:27
Ep 117 Joost Bakker - The Darling of Waste Free Living
Feb 26, 2023

Summary

We know that Western culture lives excessively, endlessly seeking the newest and shiniest new thing.  Its shocking that 40% of our food goes to waste, one third of our building materials are never even used. But this way of life will be short lived and thankfully being wasteful is now  on the nose and cool cats like Joost are making waves by making junk UBER COOL. What can we do to create a new way forward in what he describes as the most exciting time in human history?

Show notes

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Duration: 00:29:46
Ep 116 Mitch Tambo - A Gamilaraay Voice for Change. Summer Days Throwback 2023
Feb 19, 2023

 If you're yet to hear Mitch perform 'You're the voice", I beg you to head to the link at the bottom and listen.
 Carrying the message of unification, love and kindness. Culture is not foreign to Mitch who imbeds a celebration of it into every facet of life as tools to build identity and a strong sense of place. For him living and breathing culture is the start middle and end of it.
An articulate, straight talker he sheds light on why everyone deserves a chance to not only survive but to thrive.  His super-power-story-telling ability notches up...

Duration: 00:51:29
Ep 115 Kate Ulman - Fox's Lane Encourager of Creativity. Summer days throwback 2023
Feb 12, 2023

This heart led Mumma of three has been luring us with images of a dreamy, bloom filled life on her Daylesford apple orchard & words of equal romance via her craft blog for over a decade. She laughs easily, has found balance in being real & makes the simplest of thoughts feel like genuine aha moments.  Kate Ulman is wrenchingly honest about the reality of farm life with young children, turning inwards when self care is needed & whether her babies will return to life on the land. Although not at her kitchen table, the intimacy of this conversation feels very p...

Duration: 01:00:15
Ep 114 Paul West - his real life River Cottage. Summer Days Throwback 2023
Feb 05, 2023

Strap in for a fast paced chat with this natural born story teller.  From the heady heights of top restaurants, starring in his own reality tv program and radio shows to his definition of “enough” - which  begins with rude health and healthy kids before settling with sovereignty of time and community belonging. 

As practical and grounded as he is charismatic with a touch of aussie larrikin, ‘Westy’ is whip cracking fast making it easy to listen and laugh at his tales - like serving uncooked rice as his first attempt at cooking.

This high energy huma...

Duration: 00:57:54
Ep 113 Tammi Jonas - Degrowth for perpetuity. Summer days throwback 2023.
Jan 29, 2023

Sharing her evolution from academic keyboard warrior to her current reality of being an agroecological pork and beef farmer who's pretty darned handy with the butchers knife and equally as sharp of mind in her contributions to the UN small scale farming policy initiatives.

Tammi Jonas is indeed a force of the natural world, never backwards in coming forwards but mellowing with every decade and sharing her successes and failures for the sake of thousands who are following in her footsteps towards a life of farming democracy.

Episode Summary

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Duration: 01:02:32
Ep 112 Brooke McAlary - going slow & the farce of multitasking Summer Days Throwback 2023
Jan 22, 2023

Brooke McAlary has built a life and brand around slow. She's the author of three books, the co-host of The Slow Home podcast and the voice of a movement that says, "Dear Joneses, I'm opting out of the rat race."

But hey, that doesn't mean she's exempt from overwhelm. This convo opens with Brooke and Jade swapping stories of exhaustion.  File that under honesty. 

So join us on the couch as we define our zone zero, get our inner turmoil sorted before facing the outer chaos, and discuss a potential inner care deficit. Duration: 01:02:14

Ep 111 Damon Gameau - Are you part of the 'Re generation'. Summer days throwback 2023
Jan 15, 2023

Damon Gameau  - A call to arms for storytellers! 

 It's time to shine the spotlight on our story tellers; the creatives,  film makers, artists, poets, chefs, writers and musicians. "If our storytellers cannot find a way then the way cannot be found".  Join Jade & Damon in this conversation about defying the attention economy, ways to avoid being numbed but the inertia of the system (which is not actually our friend - despite it being dressed up that way) and why rites of passage could be the answer to rebuilding our culture .
Finally, we  ask the bi...

Duration: 00:53:36