Forty20 Rugby League Podcasts

We're joined by the RFL's Head of Match Officials Phil Bentham to talk about the recent documentary - "Beyond the Whistle" - taking a look behind the scenes at the world of professional match officials.

Plenty to discuss, including how it came about, refereeing in the modern world, how the Premier League sees our video systems and how we're looking to improve in 2026, and plenty more besides.

If you haven't seen it, follow the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtXyTvaAHrc

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Remember the 2000 Rugby League World Cup? It was rubbish, that's what we were told, but two men who were there in the thick of it (the press box) are here to dispute that.

Authors of Super League: The First Ten Years (still available somewhere) - our own Phil Caplan and Jonathan Doidge - reminisce over a tournament which was wet, expansive and won by Australia...

Jonathan will be hosting a range of events in 2026 with something for RL, Leeds United and cricket fans... https://x.com/jdzevents/status/1994851574842364284

An end of season review of sorts, as teams have started pre-season for 2026, we're ready for hibernation. Back live in January, but still more to come before the end of the year...

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It's over....and it went as expected. Or did it? Australia return with the Ashes again, England score two tries in three games, and Shaun Wane's in charge...

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2020 feels like a long time ago, and that's when Sophie Robinson last joined us on the podcast. Since then, she's taken a break from playing, until returning for her Jamaica debut last week, but it's not the start of a comeback.

The former Leeds Rhino tells us what she's been up to, what's keeping her busy, the international game, how Jamaica fits in that and how, despite playing, she's back involved at her old club.

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The Ashes are going back to Australia, again, so is there anything we can do to change that going forward? Other Rugby League news and stuff as well, of course...

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It's The Ashes...and we're 1-0 down. What went wrong, and can we stop the Aussies? Probably not, but we're still looking forward to Everton on Saturday....and loads of other Rugby League topics.

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The Ashes are here, and so is James back in the studio, so we can talk about those, the changes to Super League, and everything else we can think of...

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"There's Only One Channy Crowl!" is the title of Channy Crowl's autobiography, as you could probably guess, and she joins the podcast to talk about it, representing her birth nation of Canada this autumn, 2025 for St. Helens, future plans and how she ended up on a TV quiz show, but can she get through our tough questions? A fun half hour!

You can find more details on how to buy the book on this link: https://womensrl.com/?p=776

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A Grand Final, coaching changes, and Jake Connor isn't in the England squad, to the surprise of no-one, but hasn't stopped them being upset regardless...

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A proper Super Sunday of Rugby League to look back on, with champions crowned from Greater Manchester, Queensland and the South of France, a repeat Grand Final to look forward to, and concentrating as much as we can on, rather than off the field...

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Ahead of this weekend's Women's Grand Final, Richard de la Riviere from womensrl.com joins us to talk about that, and a very busy weekend on the pitch where there were comebacks galore, Leigh impressing across the park, Halifax winning the Wheelchair Grand Final and the most ridiculous try there's every been...

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We were at the presentation of the 2025 Super League Dream Team this week, and spoke to a load of Rugby League people, so here they are!

00:00 Intro

00:41 Adrian Lam

04:16 Umyla Hanley

06:29 Daryl Powell

11:33 Mike McMeeken

15:58 Paul Wellens

18:50 Morgan Knowles

23:38 Brad Arthur

26:13 Lewis Martin

29:01 Denis Betts

35:05 Caitlin Casey

38:52 Craig Richards

43:04 Matt Peet

46:31 Willie Peters

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Technical issues plagued the broadcast, but not he recording device, and, would you believe it, we're really excited and positive as the men's Super League play-offs begin, and we have the first Grand Final coming up on Sunday.

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Almost as long as Canberra vs. Brisbane, but you can decide if the quality matches that...

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Some weeks loads happens, some less so. Still, always plenty to talk about in the world of Rugby League, as the play-off picture is almost set for the men, is for the women, and heading towards a GF in the wheelchairs. The weather has turned...

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A midweek bonus for you as we're joined by former prop forward and current BBC Radio Cumbria commentator Becca Thompson to talk her transition from pitch to press box, following the Barrow Raiders through this Women's Super League season, how they've gone, the future in the North West, commentating without always having a summariser, and her future hopes...

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James Simpson-Hill joins us to talk Leeds' expulsion from the Wheelchair Super League play-offs , and much more, James Child makes an amazing entrance as we discuss Shaggate, and everything else going on this week... --- A. "A swing dance" B. "Fine cut tobacco" C. "A bird" ---- Buy the magazine: http://www.scratchingshedpublishing.com/ Grab the podcast: https://podcast.sport-social.co.uk/podcast/forty20-rugby-league-podcasts/ Subscribe: https://www.youtube.com/c/Forty20TV Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/Forty20LIVE Like us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/forty20magazine/

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James returns to a week of a little bit of drama in the Wheelchair game, new coaches in the running game. League 1 exists, Woman of Steel shouts, gingers, boots as cups and the usual other stuff. ---- Buy the magazine: http://www.scratchingshedpublishing.com/ Grab the podcast: https://podcast.sport-social.co.uk/podcast/forty20-rugby-league-podcasts/ Subscribe: https://www.youtube.com/c/Forty20TV Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/Forty20LIVE Like us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/forty20magazine/

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We may have had internet issues at points, but the programme cannot be stopped!

The latest nonsense from Salford, a key reason why there shouldn't be too many worries about Sport England, and some actual Rugby League to talk about....

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Salford's situation

Arthur's seat remains at Headingley

We love S4C

Other stuff

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Not much new news, but plenty to talk about, but not bullies. John Davidson is back, and Phil and Richard try to keep him away from the biscuits and discuss all the latest in Rugby League. ---- Buy the magazine: http://www.scratchingshedpublishing.com/ Grab the podcast: https://podcast.sport-social.co.uk/podcast/forty20-rugby-league-podcasts/ Subscribe: https://www.youtube.com/c/Forty20TV Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/Forty20LIVE Like us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/forty20magazine/

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WHAT! A! SHOW!

James Child and John Davidson are both back with us as we start with tributes to Ray French, and the usual news and stuff, but, at 30 minutes or so in, Super League announces it will be expanding to 14 teams NEXT SEASON and all hell breaks loose.... ---- Buy the magazine: http://www.scratchingshedpublishing.com/ Grab the podcast: https://podcast.sport-social.co.uk/podcast/forty20-rugby-league-podcasts/ Subscribe: https://www.youtube.com/c/Forty20TV Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/Forty20LIVE Like us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/forty20magazine/

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The future of TV, loads of talking points on the pitch, the new game and cake.

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We're outside, leaving behind the studio to head to King Alfred Fields, home of the North Leeds Leopards, where Phil knows people, and ambushes Sam Lisone!

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James returns as Danny McGuire goes....another load of RL things to talk about!

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Referee blaming is back, props scoring tries, Dagnall's deft touch and loads of other things we've forgotten about...

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A try scorer in York's Grand Final win in 2024, Kelsey Gentles is now a free agent, and joins us to talk about her return from injury, how that is dealt with in the women's game, how she's not made a decision on where to play next, international hopes, and Wembley as well, and much more with one of the effervescent stars of Rugby League!

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Trying to stick to the stuff on the pitch, rather than anything else getting in front of cameras...

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No Wembley hangovers for Hull KR, Wigan's women and York, nor Saints women and Featherstone with them all winning, but what is going on at both Warrington, and Catalans, who appear to blame the Challenge Cup for their current form.

Praise for Halifax, as they head into the Wheelchair Super League season as Challenge Cup winners, and celebrations for Sir Billy Boston!

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After finals day at Wembley, what do you think we spend most of the programme talking about?

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From Headingley, Forty20's Phil Caplan speaks to Professor Tony Collins about his new book, Roy Francis: Rugby’s Forgotten Black Leader, on the life and times of one of Rugby League's most significant historical figures, from his playing days, move into coaching and influence, as well as the issues he faced on and off the field.

They are also joined by one of Roy's sons, Ian, who shares some of his recollections of his father.

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An episode that genuinely goes on for longer than we thought, which we're blaming on James turning up about half-an-hour in. Everything that happened last week, that we watched, and Wembley thoughts...

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What happened last week on the pitch, Phil goes to London, Steve McNamara's in limbo, and the illustrious history of the Championship Shield...

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It's the Celtic Cup this Saturday, as Wales host Scotland and defending champions Ireland in Cardiff for three games of Wheelchair RL in one day.

Phil Roberts of Ireland and Wales' Alan Caron join us to look ahead to the event, and the state of the game in their nations.

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In a week where not much news has happened yet, Phil prepares to try a Lamington in London, Richard muses over buying a "Rudge Mode" t-shirt, a present arrives in the studio, and there's plenty of on -field action to go through as the Wembley line-up is complete, Hull KR and Wigan remain top, the Warriors Women impress again, and we all have a fun time.

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JAMES CHILD IS BACK! So, plenty to talk about with him, and where he's been, plus, Challenge Cup semi-finals and other bits and pieces.

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Some magic occurred in Newcastle, Cup excitement on the horizon, and news, of which, there isn't much.

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As the Women's Challenge Cup semi-finals approach this weekend, St. Helens forward Emily Rudge joins us on the podcast to discuss the game against York Valkyrie, "home advantage" and how that could be changed, the state of the women's game in general, England, Vegas and social media, for good and bad...

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The pre-Magic Weekend action, inconsistencies and why Catalans REALLY (we think) aren't in the Wheelchair Challenge Cup.

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A special Tuesday edition of the programme in which we talk about the Easter Rugby League action, and wonder if the Catholic Church works like the RFL when choosing a new leader....

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With World Cups on the horizon in the Wheelchair and PDRL games in 2026, this season is another big opportunity for all those involved, on and off the pitch. Add in to that LDSL, and it was a busy morning when we went to the RFL's Inclusion Season Launch in Manchester...

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A lot of things have happened and a lot of things have not happened.

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We spoke to plenty of people at last week's Women's Season Launch in Leigh, and you can hear from them here!

York Valkyrie: Lindsay Anfield

St. Helens: Phoebe Hook & Craig Richards

Cardiff Demons: Ffion Jenkins

Sheffield Eagles: Andrea Dobson

Barrow Raiders: Amanda Wilkinson

Wigan Warriors: Denis Betts & Izzy Rowe

Leeds Rhinos: Bella Sykes & Lois Forsell

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People flock to see Challenge Cup rugby, we've been at a couple of launches, and some other stuff has probably happened we need to talk about...

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Rugby League and Politics have gone hand in hand from day one, and before that meeting at The George in 1895.

Current Chair of the All Party Parliamentary Group for RL, which isn't easy to say, is MP for St. Helens North David Baines, who joined us to talk about what the group does, what they can't do, and his thoughts on the sport and relationships between it and those who run the country.

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Kingston-upon-Hull lead the way, Will Pryce is back, a drop goal masterclass in France, but do we want them? (The French that is.) Also: more shenanigans.

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Another normal week in the world of Thoroughbred Rugby League, as Leeds geld Wigan, both Hull's impress, and there's some statements that you could say have come from the back end of a horse, but we, of course, wouldn't...

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Challenge Cup and Coups, the Hull FC revival and remembering a Cup King....

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It seems apt, at the moment, to dig into the archives once again, and here, from September 2017, is the appearance of then RFL CEO Nigel Wood in the Radio Yorkshire studio...

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We'd like to run the RFL but, like Newcastle Knights, we'd probably mess it up...a month into the Super League season, and the on-field stuff is certainly in a better place then some of the off-field dramas...

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What happens in Vegas, gets discussed in North Leeds (apart from the things that stay in Vegas.)

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Despite the fact we won't be in Las Vegas, we're quite excited for the events there, and, after an unpredictable first week of Super League, everything was almost back to normal for week two...James Child is back. and there's plenty to talk about!

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A quiet week, on and off the pitch, with nothing to talk about....apart from a 1-0 opener, Salford's selections and a coup attempt! John Davidson returns to pick the bones out of it all.

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Super League is around the corner, an England squad is announced, and there was plenty going on in the Challenge Cup to talk about, so join us for that, and special guest, Leeds Rhinos Head of Youth John Bastian in the studio too...

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A bonus episode as we head to the Midlands to talk Rugby League with Michael Shires on how the game is growing there at the moment, the Hurricanes, Coventry Bears, the rise of Try Tag Rugby, the Challenge Cup, Student RL and his upcoming trip to Vegas. Plenty to fit in to half an hour...

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Does Rugby League have an issue with communication? What's happening at Salford? Huddersfield moving to Halifax? Secret draws, Challenge Cup moves and more...

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Jonathan Doidge joins us to talk the latest issues in Rugby League, as we head towards the new professional season, there's plenty going on at Salford, London, the disciplinary and in the Challenge Cup...

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After we'd all been chatting to various members of the Leeds Rhinos at their media day, we gathered all the journalists who like us, and anyone else we could find, for a bonus discussion in the cafe at Headingley.

Joining Phil and Richard are, Steve Mascord, Ross Heppenstall, Louis Chapman-Coombe and John Davidson to talk whatever Rugby League topics were on their minds, including Vegas, Jordan Abdull's departure from Hull FC, the future of Marc Sneyd, social media stars and more...

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If you've already forgotten some of the winners of things in Rugby League in 2024, fear not!

From Sheffield to Leeds, with trips to Wembley, Old Trafford, St. Helens and Hull in between, those who were victorious spoke to us after they picked up silverware and medals...

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In the tradition of Morecambe & Wise, The Two Ronnies and, erm, Mrs. Brown's Boys, welcome to our Christmas Show.

A special guest filled spectacular as World Cup winner James Simpson, Mongolia's no. 1 radio presenter Martin Kelner, Phil's dad Geoff and It's Not A Toy's Ian Boldsworth join us for some Rugby League and other nonsense...

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There's some big shoes to fill at Sheffield Eagles, and it's Craig Lingard who'll be doing so.

The former head coach of Castleford Tigers has taken on the role in South Yorkshire, after club legend Mark Aston left the role.

He told us why he took on the job, what he learned from his time as a coach in Super League, making changes at the Eagles, how it's been easier than he may have thought to assimilate himself and turns the tables on us....

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Following his Super League Young Player of the Year Award and Dream Team selection. Halifax Panthers' Rob Hawkins ended 2024 by being awarded the Golden Boot for his performances for England.

He joined us to talk about winning the award, how the season went for him, those battles against France and what the future may hold...

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As 2024 comes to an end, we welcome two guests to talk to us over Zoom this week.

First up, St. Helens centre and England international Erin Stotts joins us to tell us how she got into Rugby League in the first place, starting off at Huddersfield, the hard work to stay in the national squad ahead of Vegas, moving to Saints, watching on at Wembley and playing there this year and how her mate Paige Travis will get on in the NRLW.

Then, it's time to talk to Goole...

The season is over, so after a round-up of whatever news there is, it's time to look back on 2024. We'll be back live before Christmas!

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Danika Priim makes her return from the studio, with plenty to talk about, which is surprising. Golden Boots, Hull FC's investment, WSL moves and the 745 Game amongst those topics....

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John Bentley, Luke Gale and Ben Thaler join us to look ahead to Sunday's 745 Game at Headingley - a hybrid of Rugby League and Union rules from an idea between Rob Burrow (7) and Ed Slater (4) encompassing their fellow player and MND campaigner Doddie Weir (5)

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When nothing much has happened, how do you still fill a podcast?

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Our not-end-of-season-review episode looks back on the matters arising from England's double header with Wales and Samoa, the Pacific Championships, Yorkshire/Lancashire AGAIN, Sheffield Eagles, IMG, and seeing if we could do the podcast from the Houses of Parliament...

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A bumper episode, having spent most of the weekend in Wigan, as James Child returns, as does John Davidson and we're joined in the studio for the first time by Wheelchair Rugby League GM Martin Coyd OBE to talk about the internationals, IMG, the Sheffield Eagles/Mark Aston situation and plenty more...

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A World Cup winner with England in 2008, Martin Norris joins us to announce his retirement from Wheelchair Rugby League, and talk about his continued involvement at Hull FC, how the sport has changed since he started playing 20 years ago, quickly making his international debut, playing on a car park in France, and many more memories from a stellar career!

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Looking ahead to internationals, history made at Belle Vue and an Alternative Rugby League Hall of Fame...

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Superlatives for Wigan, Leeds, Hunslet and more...

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As Hull KR prepare to face Wigan Warriors at Old Trafford, and Leeds Rhinos and Halifax Panthers check on the M62 traffic situation, we hear from all four sides, plus journalist John Seager, ahead of a busy weekend of Rugby League.

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Looking ahead to the next two Grand Finals, after York kicked off the week winning the Women's one, Phil was at the awards and James is back!

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A great weekend of Rugby League and hopes for another one coming up!

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The play-offs are set in the Men's Super League, the semis in the Wheelchair, and Grand Final in the Women's, plus a load of other rugby being played all over the place for us to talk about. Also, what's your favourite Rugby League noise?

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It's a much busier weekend for Wigan's defence of their Super League title than when we arranged this, as Jack Heggie and his fellow Warriors will face Leeds Rhinos on Saturday, then a trip to Halifax on Sunday.

We chatted about the games ahead,, their Grand Final win, and how this season matches up with 2023, and a load more things, like modelling England kits and banning himself from playing Football Manager...

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James is back with us to talk about a strange weekend in Super League, and plenty of other bits and pieces...

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Seems we have more to talk about than you'd think...

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Rugby League, Lies and VHS tapes...

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James is back in the fold as we look back another weekend of newsworthy stuff in Rugby League, including a win for the 14 men of Whitehaven, but where is the sport going outside Super League, a statement made by Hull KR, and a something from Huddersfield, but what is their plan for the future?

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Magic or Tragic? Actually, it's somewhere in between really. We look back at a weekend which sees Hull KR end it on top of the Super League pile. On and off the pitch, the entertaining was lacking, but there's some positives as well.

Plus, another week of stuff happening at Whitehaven, what the NRL would get if they buy Super League (which they aren't) and much more Rugby League goodness as John Davidson is here, and Karsten has sent us biscuits...

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We look ahead to Magic Weekend, sorry, #MagicWKND, in the company of England captain and Warrington half-back George Williams, Leeds Rhinos head coach Brad Arthur, Wigan's Kruise Leeming, Paul Wellens and Tommy Makinson of St. Helens, plus London's Mike Eccles and Tom Briscoe of Hull FC...

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After a great weekend for Leeds Rhinos, the coach of their Wheelchair side, James Simpson MBE joins us to talk about a load of Rugby League related things, as there's narrow wins, teams getting over a busy week, and a Magic Weekend to prepare for. And Fort Boyard.

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A race against time as Phil, James and Richard somehow talk about a load of things in just over 30 minutes....normal service resumed on Monday!

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James is back, John is too, Phil is always here and Richard is on reduced power. Plenty to talk about, as ever, in the world of Rugby League, and some very impressive performances too...

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No Monday Blues for John Davidson, as your favourite Aussie yarn-spinner is back on the podcast, winding up Phil after NSW won the men's State of Origin series last week,

We look back on the action from the weekend, which some surprise results across many competitions, The Sam Burgess Show, another Sam coming back as Tomkins returns to the Catalans, and if we can learn something from GAA, after it was on BBC2 on Sunday.

A fun time as always...

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Great games, new faces arriving, old ones stood down, statements made, the latest return of GB and other stuff happening in the world of Rugby League. From Belgrade to, erm, Bradford. Ish.

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(Apologies for the sound issues, we'll get that sorted for next week!)

A week of more drama off the field than on it, as we try blag a trip to Vegas, just in case there's some Rugby League there in March.

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Back LIVE, once again, as we look back on the reaction from Saturday's Tests in France. What went wrong, and why International Rugby League is not dead, just because Saturday was a bit rubbish. Plenty of other bits and pieces as well, as we start by hoping YouTube is working...which is was! Success!

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As we build-up to Super League's international break, journalist Louis Chapman-Coombe joins us to look back on the weekend's action on, and off, the field, as both he and Phil were at Headingley for Friday's tribute to Rob Burrow combined with a win for the Rhinos over Leigh.

It was close in most of the top flight games, as we talk about those, life in the Championship and League One, a player swapping the Wallabies for the NRL and how you're supposed to eat cream tea.

Plus, debutant Cameron Hills, Hull FC's Martin Norris and...

Another week of Rugby League to talk about, apart from London vs. Saints, which the "professional presenter" forgot about. Sorry. But James is back!

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Wembley has been and gone, and plenty to talk about from it, on and off the pitch...

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Ahead of the Women's Challenge Cup Final at Wembley this weekend, we were joined by Julia Lee to talk about Women in Rugby League's current project delving into the history of the women's game - "The Pioneering Years."

Lee, as one of those "pioneers" involved, told us about what the project has discovered about the very early days, and the steps taken, battles fought and won, to get to the stage we have today.

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Remembering Rob Burrow, and some chat about the action on the pitch as well.

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A new man at Hull FC, the latest action on the pitch, and some of it off it as well. John Davidson joins us again to talk about it all, well, that we can fit into 67 minutes or so.

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The Challenge Cup Finals are set, with plenty to talk about on the field this week, and bits about Sam Burgess, Jake Connor, Junior Nsemba and loads of other people who did stuff.

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Wigan's men looking ominous, Hull FC's signings, London WIN...an interesting weekend in the WSL and the 1992 Yorkshire Cup Final rematch we've* all been waiting for. Loads of other bits and pieces as well.

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How tight is it at the top of Super League? It's all to play for, and plenty to do so for those in the Championship and League One as well. John Davidson joins us as we talk signings, both announced and rumoured, get no closer to who will take over at Hull, but some thoughts on the Souths after Bennett and much more as well...

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